Texas draws the line on death row last meals
MsMarginalized wrote:
In Florida they put parameters on the inmates last meal. It can't cost more than $50 (or thereabouts) must be obtained locally (NO T-bone steak flown in from Mortons in NYC) and no alcohol.
I'm very surprised to hear that Texas allowed a single person to order 7 entree's (perhaps the dude had the idea of suicide by stomach rupture?)
I'm very surprised to hear that Texas allowed a single person to order 7 entree's (perhaps the dude had the idea of suicide by stomach rupture?)
I don't think you can get a $50 Steak at Mortons but, it's a national chain so no need to fly one in from NYC. I'm sure there is one in Texas. Also it would probably pretty high on my list of Last Meals.
GreySun369 wrote:
I'm in the great minority on this, but I've always felt some sympathy towards the inmates on Death Row. I don't appreciate the fact that the government is denying them their last ounce of human decency before being put to death just because of the occassional as*hole who orders too much and then refuses to eat at the last minute. But I guess I'd better get used to it, pretty soon the US will be going back to the Dark Ages and start torturing suspected criminals for information. Or maybe they already do that...
They do.
eric76 wrote:
J-Greens wrote:
Capital Punishment is not humane and should be banned. We should not be funding martyrs.
Capital punishment does not make martyrs out of them. It makes them dead. They will never be able to repeat the horrors that got them the death penalty.
Most people who get death get it for a botched robbery.
xenon13 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
J-Greens wrote:
Capital Punishment is not humane and should be banned. We should not be funding martyrs.
Capital punishment does not make martyrs out of them. It makes them dead. They will never be able to repeat the horrors that got them the death penalty.
Most people who get death get it for a botched robbery.
Do you have any statistics for that? It does sound plausible that a great many would get it for killing someone during a robbery, but I don't see that killing someone during a robbery makes it a "botched" robbery.
The one I knew who was executed was in a stolen car when it broke down along with his older brother, one or two sisters, and someone else. Someone stopped and helped them fix it. After he was through helping, the older brother held him down while the one I knew hit him over the head with a jack until he was dead.
Like I said earlier, I drove his school bus. The older brother would often stand outside the school bus and try to put a hex on me. I just laughed at him for that.
No botched robbery on that one. They did rob him, but that was after the victim was dead.
I used to know another pair of brothers who committed a murder as well. In that case, the one brother hired the other to kill his wife which he did. The one who performed the murder committed suicide in jail awaiting trial. The husband was found not guilty because the jury didn't feel like the prosecution proved the case. Later he fled the country when facing federal charges related to the murder and was captured in Europe and jailed until he was eventually returned. Under the extradition agreement with the European country where he was captured and held, he pled guilty to other charges and went to prison. He was released about a year ago.
No robbery on that one, either.
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/dr_executed_offenders.html contains a list of the executions in Texas since 1982 along with statements about the crimes for which they were executed.
Just a random sampling hasn't turned up any botched robberies.
The one I knew is number 61 on the list and his brother is number 62 on the list.
Number 320 on the list, Cameron Todd Willingham, is pretty controversial. There is plenty of reasonable doubt about whether or not the investigation of the house fire was seriously botched. Read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham. It's quite likely that he was innocent.
eric76 wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
eric76 wrote:
J-Greens wrote:
Capital Punishment is not humane and should be banned. We should not be funding martyrs.
Capital punishment does not make martyrs out of them. It makes them dead. They will never be able to repeat the horrors that got them the death penalty.
Most people who get death get it for a botched robbery.
Do you have any statistics for that? It does sound plausible that a great many would get it for killing someone during a robbery, but I don't see that killing someone during a robbery makes it a "botched" robbery.
The one I knew who was executed was in a stolen car when it broke down along with his older brother, one or two sisters, and someone else. Someone stopped and helped them fix it. After he was through helping, the older brother held him down while the one I knew hit him over the head with a jack until he was dead.
Like I said earlier, I drove his school bus. The older brother would often stand outside the school bus and try to put a hex on me. I just laughed at him for that.
No botched robbery on that one. They did rob him, but that was after the victim was dead.
I used to know another pair of brothers who committed a murder as well. In that case, the one brother hired the other to kill his wife which he did. The one who performed the murder committed suicide in jail awaiting trial. The husband was found not guilty because the jury didn't feel like the prosecution proved the case. Later he fled the country when facing federal charges related to the murder and was captured in Europe and jailed until he was eventually returned. Under the extradition agreement with the European country where he was captured and held, he pled guilty to other charges and went to prison. He was released about a year ago.
No robbery on that one, either.
The intention is robbery and it is often botched when they actually kill someone. Not that there are not other cases where they choose to kill the victim after the robbery. At any rate these tend to be overrepresented when it comes to death and LWOPP cases.
Well, perhaps I mean LWOPP cases as they avoid sentencing people to death for Felony Murder and prefer LWOPP. However, it appears clear that there is a bias when it comes to victims unknown to the perpetrator. That is, if the victim is unknown to the perpetrator, there is more likely a death penalty.
