Akin said what????

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Really? You gotta be kiddin' me!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Well he was tied again about a week ago, so him being ahead isn't surprising.

Anyways...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407882,00.html

Before you start badmouthing the woman in this article, she is talking about what she testified before the Illinois state senate, she was the Nurse that held that baby in her arms. Question is are you going to admit that Obama is pro-infanticide or are you going to continue to delude yourself.

I hardly think the President is pro-infanticide just because he had cast pro-choice votes. And I wasn't badmouthing the woman; I was badmouthing her use in partisan propaganda.
And I'll remind you, the same pro-life Republicans are the people who want to cut food stamps and WIC programs. The people who they constantly describe as undeserving welfare queens are in fact poor children and their parents who couldn't make it without a social safety net. The charge that Republicans care about you before you're born and after you die, but not in between, is more than fair.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Last I checked it was Obamacare that cut medicare by $700 billion dollars... Furthermore, you just demonstrated yet another example of how you don't know what you are talking about.

Finally, you think him blocking a piece of legislation protecting infants whom are outside of the womb is simply pro-choice, are you out of your mind?!?!?! The kid isn't even in the woman's body anymore, and Obama was okay with them being thrown in trashcans while they were still alive, that's not pro-choice, that's pro-infanticide!! !

As far as I'm aware third trimester abortions are pretty hard to get. I wanted one once near the end of the second trimester and couldn't get it. I was told I'd have to go all the way to NYC and even then it might have been too late.

Really--you're going to rely on that old chestnut? When Fox News calls Ryan a liar, you know that he is on bad footing. Moving $700 billion from one program to another is a vastly different thing than cutting $700 billion from a program and not replacing it with anything.

But that's you all over--all rhetoric and no substance.



But that's not all that the legislation said, now is it?

I think Hanyo and visigrunt more than adequately answered your charges.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Actually, they just proved that they didn't do any research at all and are just shooting their mouths off...
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/2003Amen ... BAIPA.html

That's a comparison between the Federal Law that was enacted under President Bush that Obama falsely claimed the reason he didn't support the Illinois bill was because it had a lot of weird things thrown in.

Also the exact text:
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ExactBil ... Obama.html

That is the entire piece of legislation, problem for you guys is that I've actually read the bills...

Dear Auntblabby,the two features MO has are really cheap ciggs and gas, oh ,I forgot,lots of crystal meth heads.Until a few years ago cock-fighting was legal in one county.I did hear on the MO local news that akin had received rape and death threats.

If the rape threat is carried out, let's see if he aborts the butt baby.
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It would be a large baby because he's full of S#@t ,sorry I couldn't resist either.My satellite server only carries MO news so I'm sick of seeing akin trying to put a spin on what he said.I deleted part of the previous post because I think I got slightly offensive,sorry if anyone read it and got offended.

I think this video is relevant so I'll post it again:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwFIEprF_9Y[/youtube]

What Akins said was stupid, but the fact he's up against people that support infanticide (and yeah one a baby is outside of the womb, the woman's choice argument doesn't apply only the most extreme pro-abortion fanatic believes otherwise, unfortunately Obama is one of those extreme pro-abortion fanatics.

Another thing, the woman in the video is doing that ad because she is only here because some nurse decided that throwing a baby in the trash was wrong and had a shred of human decency.

Again Akin's idiocy pales in comparison to someone supporting infanticide.

i did not intend to hurt you, i simply wonder what attracts people to that state, with such pols running things.

I don't agree with partial birth abortions unless the mothers life is at risk.If abortion was legal when my bio-mom was pregnant with me I'm sure I would have been in a trash can BUT if you make abortion illegal it will still happen in illegal settings that won't be sanitary and you will just loose more lives to botched abortion attempts at home.You'll never stop it,you'll just send it underground.Where will a scared 13 year old rape victim go then? What if she's been raped by a family member? Women have been aborting babies since there has been a human race,herbs,a sharp stick,you name it,it's been done.I don't believe in taking life but it's not my place to judge others or tell them what to do with their body.It's their choice and they have to live with it ,right or wrong.

As I had told you a long time ago, in my heart, I'm pro-life, but the pro-life movement has been highjacked by heartless ideologues who care about people before they're born and after they die, but not in between. Proof of that lies in the fact that the same pro-lifers are the ones who believe the poor should not be "coddled," but rather forced to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. And that includes millions of children who they want to deprive of food stamps, medical coverage, and any other social programs. As soon as the pro-life movement cares about a child after they're born, I might actually start defending them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The idea that the poor shouldn't be "coddled" doesn't mean that they don't care, quite the opposite, I would say while you mean well you're actually hurting the people you are trying to help, many liberals however actually push these welfare programs to lock people into dependency and a learned helplessness so they have a voting block.

Pro-life Conservatives are not saying that people whom need a helping hand once in a while shouldn't get that help. You are buying into the left's phony narative again, the left is very good at presenting B.S. arguments in a manner that people believe them. Conservatives advocate that those whom are able to work but need the help should get the help but they should also be pushed into getting a job. The idea is that the individual will get some self-respect because they are no longer dependent on others, it teaches them self-relience and they are no longer locked into a cycle of poverty.