Damaging story on ASD & child porn by Temple Grandin's m

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I guess you're right about the problem having more to with people who are too lazy to learn than with people with low IQs. It's just hard for me to rationalize how someone could have the mental capacity to retain this type of information, yet still have the ability to choose not to. It's always seemed to me like I don't have the choice to not retain information. Even if I tried as hard as I could not to, I really doubt that I'd be able to prevent myself from retaining it. This is one of the things that really confuses me about how a lot of NTs think.

The article seems like nothing more than hate propaganda.

Wow. I had no idea such a law existed. I mean, I'm sure there's pros and cons of such a law, but at this particular moment I'm certainly seeing the benefits.

Culter does say this;

One of the least understood and least discussed aspects of male sex offenders is the sexual response of those who live with autism. Part of the reason is that the group is very small; numbers are not available, and few arrests are on record.

if there are so many males with autism who are petifiles why are there no cases in the media that are memorible

I too have an aging parent, I understand, and would offer our condolences to Temple on the event of her mother's passing media flautuance.

meems, good article, and thanks for posting it.

The Daily Beast must have picked up some The Onion writers, where bad taste under the heading of humor destroyed their following, and may The Beast join them.

It was Media Exploitation, picking on the mother of Autisms leading writer, who at 86, likely had little idea about what would go into print.

A few phone calls, asking her views, some filler, not supplied by Temple's mom, and presto, media that gets attention!

Raising Temple could not have been easy, and as someone from the time, I know the general view was just lock them up and forget about them. Temple's mom did not, and Temple turned out OK. Looking at her whole life, mom did good when it was thought impossible, and daughter has lead in spreading an understanding of Autism, and how cows think.

The Daily Beast is named after their Master Satan, a digital rag, who have sold their soul for ratings, and gave a group discount to the Master, and Father of Lies.

Since the Fall of Print, when the Star, Enquierer, Daily News, ceased to exist on the earthly plane, Media Whores have migrated to to cold reaches of Cyberspace, to delay their entry into the flaming pits of Hell.

Mugging an 86 year old little old lady, and mother of a world famous writer, is what they were taught in Demon Journalism.

The idea that autistic men are "boys who never grew up"... hooo boy.

First of all: Even severely disabled adults are still adults. The idea that disabled people are eternal children is a stereotype people with disabilities have had to fight against for a long time.

Secondly: Pedophiles are not "children who never grew up", either. Think: A little boy is not attracted to little girls. He hasn't gone through puberty. He's attracted to sports and games and books and toys and friends and exploring the world, as children do. If autistic men were little boys in grown-up clothing, they would be functionally asexual. Children would be potential playmates, not potential sex objects.

Thirdly: A lack of social skill does not mean a lack of normal sex drive. The sex drive is not a social skill; it is a physiological fact. When a straight autistic man sees a woman, he can find her attractive without needing to have sophisticated theory of mind, social ability, or even the ability to speak.

Information. Like the thoughts in people's minds, the ideas present in our culture. That kind of thing. Like, the concept of "chair" exists, even in the absence of an actual chair. It's a bit philosophical, but I don't think it's foreign to the autistic mind. It's just something most of us don't really think about. Neurotypicals, neither. It took Plato to set it down concretely for the first time.

John Robison also did an article about this too.

People always blames things on old age when they say something stupid or do something stupid. Just like when we have autism, people blame anything on it rather it's our beliefs or point of views or things we say or do.

A very sloppy article full of accusations based on nothing but speculation presented as if this counts for men with autism in general.

As a kid I was confronted with the sexuality for the first time trough renaissance paintings and sculptures, but you don't see me walking into a museum wearing nothing but a trench coat, because I never got past that period of time, yes a ridiculous example which is just about as ridiculous as the claims of this poor old woman.

The whole thinking in details which cannot be placed into a larger context, must be one of the greatest misconceptions about autism I've heard in the last few years, and sadly I hear this all too often.

Maybe her explanation is true for some people within the spectrum, but to project that theory on the entire spectrum is absolutely preposterous.

I never get these people, if you want to know more about sexual orientation in autistic men, all you have to do is to ask us about it, instead of making up claims that are surely going to work counterproductive in creating acceptance for autistic people, which is lacking enough as it is.

Sometimes art reflects life. If you all want to know why we're treated the way we do then this movie has some truth to what America has become.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul4CZrnEFxU[/youtube]

Wow, just when I was recovering from the Cutler article I watched the God Bless America preview. Holy Crap - the scary part was at points I actually enjoyed it. I remember a move with Michael Douglas called Falling Down. It had a similar theme. Shooting people in a movie theatre - not cool.

Wow Ann, I enjoyed some parts as well and it scares me as well.

There are some exaggerations in this movie but this is the crux of what we're dealing with. The truth is most people do not give a s**t therefore I don't believe we're being actively being persecuted. What will happen is they will say we're pedophiles, murderers or we should be locked up. Guess what? After a few months, no one will give a rats ass.

They're self-absorbed in their own lives, status and going goo-goo, gah gah over Kim Kardashian's ass. In the genocide department we do not have anything to worry about.

It is an exaggeration almost on the cusp of satire (at least from the preview.) So I get it; although it made me feel a bit nauseous. But, back to the Cutler article. When people with her status (via her daughter) say things like this with no proof whatsoever, it is a real slam to the autistic community. I hope Grandin speaks out about this.

A lot of people will not even register this article, some who do read it will, like the people on WP, sift through the crap and see it for the flawed piece of thinking that it is. The worst case is that this filters down to urban mythology and is used as another weapon by school age bullies and gains a foothold in the next generation of ignorant adults.

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I see your point and I had not looked at it that way so thanks for giving that perspective.

I guess the impact of said article is a lot bigger on the autism community, because we have autism on our minds, and for most other people this article is about is important as an article that claims that Kim Kardashian's ass is actually her twin sister, however because the author is a mother of a autism self-advocate who is well known, the chances that this stirs up some media attention are therefore a lot bigger, but when this all blows over we are once again seen as rain man clones anyway, like we always are.

Nice movie btw I am actually watching that right now after you linked the trailer

Where did you find it at?