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19 Mar 2015, 11:25 pm

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Well, Aunt Blabby, you need to get in touch with some Cali-Funny entrepreneur who wants to create energy from burning hydrogen. The reaction produces water. That sort of thing could benefit everyone.

Other than that, best to buy some deep well drilling equipment. Perhaps you could crowd fund it ...


Yeah, but it doesn't create more water than was used to create it in the first place.


Ah well, at least real estate in Lost Angels will finally be affordable ....


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19 Mar 2015, 11:33 pm

imagine having all of that glorious state to oneself.



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20 Mar 2015, 7:47 pm

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a hopeful note above, but there is a chasm between "there" and "here." the solutions ain't gonna happen within the time frame that NASA indicates. bye bye lawns and golf courses. bye bye clean motor vehicles and city streets. bye bye [relatively] cheap food. it seems that water is the new oil, at least for the time being.


I remember reading that about the West U.S.A. in at least the early 2000s decade, maybe earlier.

These issues occurring right now have not gone unpredicted.


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20 Mar 2015, 7:49 pm

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a hopeful note above, but there is a chasm between "there" and "here." the solutions ain't gonna happen within the time frame that NASA indicates. bye bye lawns and golf courses. bye bye clean motor vehicles and city streets. bye bye [relatively] cheap food. it seems that water is the new oil, at least for the time being.


I remember reading that about the West U.S.A. in at least the early 2000s decade, maybe earlier. These issues occurring right now have not gone unpredicted.

a prophet most often is not appreciated in his or her own time.



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20 Mar 2015, 7:50 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Well, Aunt Blabby, you need to get in touch with some Cali-Funny entrepreneur who wants to create energy from burning hydrogen. The reaction produces water. That sort of thing could benefit everyone.

Other than that, best to buy some deep well drilling equipment. Perhaps you could crowd fund it ...


The Metro area I live in (which is more in the East, incidentally) gets its water from deep within the earth. We're considered to have some of the best tap water in the nation.


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20 Mar 2015, 7:55 pm

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The Metro area I live in (which is more in the East, incidentally) gets its water from deep within the earth. We're considered to have some of the best tap water in the nation.

hopefully the frackers keep their distance.



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20 Mar 2015, 9:49 pm

Water rationing in Cali-Funny to become a way of life???
This article says so....

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... ought.html

So much for all the "water parks" .....


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20 Mar 2015, 9:52 pm

^^^
that's still not gonna do anything about the fundamentals of population and agriculture. the taxpayers are gonna have to cough up some more.



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21 Mar 2015, 9:30 am

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a hopeful note above, but there is a chasm between "there" and "here." the solutions ain't gonna happen within the time frame that NASA indicates. bye bye lawns and golf courses. bye bye clean motor vehicles and city streets. bye bye [relatively] cheap food. it seems that water is the new oil, at least for the time being.


I remember reading that about the West U.S.A. in at least the early 2000s decade, maybe earlier.

These issues occurring right now have not gone unpredicted.


Look up the book "Cadillac Desert" (forget the author) written back late 80's/early 90's chronically the whole water rights thing in the American west-its history- and predicting this future.



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21 Mar 2015, 9:53 am

beneficii wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Well, Aunt Blabby, you need to get in touch with some Cali-Funny entrepreneur who wants to create energy from burning hydrogen. The reaction produces water. That sort of thing could benefit everyone.

Other than that, best to buy some deep well drilling equipment. Perhaps you could crowd fund it ...


The Metro area I live in (which is more in the East, incidentally) gets its water from deep within the earth. We're considered to have some of the best tap water in the nation.

California has been pumping out it's aquifers for years-so much so that land subsidence as a result has been a problem.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... oundwater/
Deep wells are not the solution.

This may be more of a problem in the East than people realize. A lot of eastern watersheds and aquifers are threatened by contamination from various sources. The filth they use in fracking is not helping.



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21 Mar 2015, 10:15 am

Adamantium wrote:
beneficii wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Well, Aunt Blabby, you need to get in touch with some Cali-Funny entrepreneur who wants to create energy from burning hydrogen. The reaction produces water. That sort of thing could benefit everyone.

Other than that, best to buy some deep well drilling equipment. Perhaps you could crowd fund it ...


The Metro area I live in (which is more in the East, incidentally) gets its water from deep within the earth. We're considered to have some of the best tap water in the nation.

California has been pumping out it's aquifers for years-so much so that land subsidence as a result has been a problem.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... oundwater/
Deep wells are not the solution.

This may be more of a problem in the East than people realize. A lot of eastern watersheds and aquifers are threatened by contamination from various sources. The filth they use in fracking is not helping.


"Sinking lands raise flood risk" ow, this is all so facepalm. Why don't they charge the people/companies pumping the water up enough money for it so they can fund a real water management program and fix this? If they don't like it they can move to a place that actually has enough ground water for them to farm with.



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21 Mar 2015, 12:05 pm

another dirty little secret is that America's Midwestern breadbasket also is running outta water. they're gonna have to eventually start piping water from the great lakes to keep that place from blowing away in the wind once again. and the energy companies are gonna have to slow fracking way the hell down until they can get a handle on the water table contamination problems and not just cynically "externalize" their costs on the backs of real people needing potable water.



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25 Mar 2015, 2:42 pm

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Stop listening to NASA scaremongering...

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California has 17 desalination plants in the works, either partially constructed or through exploration and planning phases.[147] The list of locations includes Bay Point, in the Delta, Redwood City, seven in the Santa Cruz / Monterey Bay, Cambria, Oceaneo, Redondo Beach, Huntington Beach, Dana Point, Camp Pendleton, Oceanside and Carlsbad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination#United_States

OK, I live in Southern California. My step-mother and brother live in the Santa Monica Mountains (think wildfires). Their well is way down. Those in their neighborhood are all having water issues. The drought is real and it is devastating our water supplies. The whole state is in severe drought...



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25 Mar 2015, 2:50 pm

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OK, I live in Southern California. My step-mother and brother live in the Santa Monica Mountains (think wildfires). Their well is way down. Those in their neighborhood are all having water issues. The drought is real and it is devastating our water supplies. The whole state is in severe drought...

in your opinion, what would it take to get the pitchfork brigades marching down to Sacramento and demanding they do something about it ASAP?



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25 Mar 2015, 3:01 pm

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My thought would be to ban lawns over a certain size.


Acre for acre, lawns generally require far more water than farmland. I'm a big fan of xeriscaping.

I read an article on water conservation in Santa Fe, New Mexico that said that residents were urged to limit the size of their lawn and to engineer them so as to use less water. I think that involved something like having a sandy layer below the grass and then a layer that was impermeable to the water so that it didn't sink further into the ground.

For what it's worth, when I was a kid we had one of the best stands of trees in our area next to the house. The secret was that our sewage ran into a septic tank and then the overflow was run out into a ditch between the two rows of trees. Those trees always had water.

Since then, we've put in a standard drainage field and many of those trees are dead and the rest are dying. I have no idea how long they will last.



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25 Mar 2015, 4:13 pm

pcuser wrote:
guzzle wrote:
Stop listening to NASA scaremongering...

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California has 17 desalination plants in the works, either partially constructed or through exploration and planning phases.[147] The list of locations includes Bay Point, in the Delta, Redwood City, seven in the Santa Cruz / Monterey Bay, Cambria, Oceaneo, Redondo Beach, Huntington Beach, Dana Point, Camp Pendleton, Oceanside and Carlsbad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination#United_States

OK, I live in Southern California. My step-mother and brother live in the Santa Monica Mountains (think wildfires). Their well is way down. Those in their neighborhood are all having water issues. The drought is real and it is devastating our water supplies. The whole state is in severe drought...


OK, I posted that comment and then sort of got interested after. The Californian drought is not big news in Europe. Might get a mention on the news but that's it. And then usually only because the fire is getting close to an A-list person's retreat.