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01 Feb 2016, 1:45 pm

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Spanking is not abuse. Making fun of your kid, not feeding your kid, exploiting your kid, neglecting your kid, verbally assaulting your kid, burning your kid, biting your kid, punching your kid. These are abuse. They leave lasting scars. Spanking is punishment. I got spanked on occasion. It didn't hurt me. I also got abused and neglecting. Years of therapy later and I still have emotional scars. I hate when people get all judgmental about spanking. Even in today's society with CPS you won't get in trouble for spanking your kids. Beating them yes but not a regular spanking with a belt or your hand. Ted Cruz has the right to spank his kids to instill discipline. As for what he has to say about Mrs. Clinton, who cares? He's in a presidential campaign and he's out to win. That's how the game is played.


Agreed 100%
The damaging things done to me at the hands of my parents had little to nothing to do with spankings. My old man gave me a few really hard shellackings but those arent the things I hold a grudge over.


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01 Feb 2016, 2:52 pm

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In my case hitting is the only way I could be reached sometimes.

Were you very tall?



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01 Feb 2016, 5:43 pm

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Get over yourself.

Practice what you preach.


And by the way, if you actually read what I initially wrote, I had a problem with Cruz denigrating another Presidential candidate (Clinton) by saying she should be spanked like he spanks his daughter, not that he's allegedly a child abuser simply because he spanks his daughter. Don't be so damn eager to jump all over me.

It's certainly not out of the realm of political campaign mudslinging. It has a very long history.
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Don't be so damn eager to jump all over me.

Maybe if you took down that neon Kick Me sign you've been wearing on your back for the past 6 years...

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And as for another post of yours concerning removing spanking in school - I for one don't want a teacher physically striking my child. Deny her recess, make her stay after school, or if the offense is bad enough, expel her, etc, but any other punishment of children should be in the hands of us parents.

Rest assured the average run of the mill spanking will be less damning than an expulsion.


Either you're imagining a neon "kick me" sign on my back, or you're back to justifying bullying again, as that's the sort of thing a bully would say.
As for spanking being preferable to expulsion - you let a stranger hit your kid, and see how it makes you feel.
And in regard to political mudslinging - sure, there's a long history of it, but that doesn't make it right.


If no one wants spankings in school, fine - I can see that to a point. HOWEVER, I'm tired of parents these days not being able to control their kids. If your kid is disrupting school for the other kids, then they should be expelled INDEFINITELY and the parents forced to home school so others won't have to deal with their unruly brats. Kids get away with too much these days and something needs to be done about it. Maybe they should be sent to a disciplinary school made just for kids who decide to misbehave. Most parents these days don't know how to parent properly and shouldn't even have kids, but they do and the rest of us are forced to put up with their little asses. You have any better ideas Kraichgauer? I know how we take care of unruly adults in the hospital - they get doped up and if that doesn't work then they get restrained and that's all legal. Kids should be no different if they choose to misbehave and break the rules. Teachers are NOT babysitters, FYI.


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01 Feb 2016, 5:47 pm

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If adults are allowed to smack kids for misbehaving then kids should be able to smack adults for misbehaving.

Hit your kid and your kid will hit other kids. Bully your child and your child will think it's okay to bully other children. Sexually abuse your kid and he/she will perform those same acts on other children, not even realizing that what they are doing is considered wrong. (After all why would they if their own parent does it).

As children grow other they may begin reject their parent's disciplinary methods, but many will go on to repeat the cycle when they have kids of their own. It's really not very logical to spank your kid for misbehaving, unless you want to teach your child how to be aggressive.


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f**k that piece of s**t and all parents that do this.


In my case hitting is the only way I could be reached sometimes.


I could comment on that last part, but that would be cruel. :twisted:


I can see you're being your old charming self again. :roll: Forget the kids - you need a good spanking and I don't mean in a good way.


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01 Feb 2016, 6:08 pm

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HOWEVER, I'm tired of parents these days not being able to control their kids.


Don't you just love going out to eat someplace and people just let thier undomesticated kids run around like animals making nuisances of themselves? You'd think they could at least have the common courtesy to hog tie them in public places like that.


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01 Feb 2016, 6:11 pm

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Every post you've ever made to me and everyone else - with the exception of your bff - has been bullying and denigrating. And as I've pointed out more than once, you've blamed the victim for being weak, or acting differently.

Every post, eh? If that were the case with over 10k posts of nothing but bullying and denigrating people I would have been banned not once but multiple times over the years.
Hint: Disagreeing isn’t bullying.

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And the good old days of teachers and janitors beating kids, when men were men, women were women, gays were beaten without repercussions (closet case conservatives could get away with this as a cover), and blacks knew their place!! ! ! ! ! Oh, boy, how I ache for the good old days!! ! ! ! :P

Nice straw man but I knew you’d have to work blacks and gays in there somehow. It’s a signature trait of yours. [/quote]

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As for mudslinging - personally expressing an opinion about a reprehensible person is one thing, while going out of one's way to destroy a person for political gain is another. So go ahead, remember all you like.

Whatev… :roll:


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01 Feb 2016, 9:09 pm

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HOWEVER, I'm tired of parents these days not being able to control their kids.


Don't you just love going out to eat someplace and people just let thier undomesticated kids run around like animals making nuisances of themselves? You'd think they could at least have the common courtesy to hog tie them in public places like that.


Hog tying might be just a wee bit much, Mr. R. :mrgreen: But I do believe that in restaurants people with kids that make noise or of a certain age should have a separate room that they must dine in unless the restaurant is McDonald's or some kids pizza joint. Eating out is very expensive and adults should be able to enjoy themselves without a bunch of ruckus.


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01 Feb 2016, 9:41 pm

Kraichgauer and Raptor, am I going to have to give you boys a spankin'?

Now, go cut me a switch from that them there peach tree. :mrgreen:


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01 Feb 2016, 10:14 pm

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HOWEVER, I'm tired of parents these days not being able to control their kids.


Don't you just love going out to eat someplace and people just let thier undomesticated kids run around like animals making nuisances of themselves? You'd think they could at least have the common courtesy to hog tie them in public places like that.


Hog tying might be just a wee bit much, Mr. R. :mrgreen: But I do believe that in restaurants people with kids that make noise or of a certain age should have a separate room that they must dine in unless the restaurant is McDonald's or some kids pizza joint. Eating out is very expensive and adults should be able to enjoy themselves without a bunch of ruckus.

Hog tying, hobbling, leg irons, police chokehold, I don't really care. Whatever it takes to ensure a quiet and peaceful dining experience for the other patrons.


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01 Feb 2016, 10:15 pm

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Kraichgauer and Raptor, am I going to have to give you boys a spankin'?

Now, go cut me a switch from that them there peach tree. :mrgreen:


Better pack a lunch...


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01 Feb 2016, 10:16 pm

what in the HELL is the matter with those @#$% Iowan GOPers who are so far landsliding towards cruz?! :wall:



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01 Feb 2016, 10:31 pm

I wound never spank my child. My mother spanked me everyday in my life for no reason at all. Once it got to the point where I walked into school with black and blue marks. To this day, I have never worn a belt because I have a phobia toward it. My father on the other hand spanked me twice in my entire childhood. He preferred the lecture than the belt. I believe a little swat on the behind will work.



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01 Feb 2016, 10:46 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Raptor wrote:
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HOWEVER, I'm tired of parents these days not being able to control their kids.


Don't you just love going out to eat someplace and people just let thier undomesticated kids run around like animals making nuisances of themselves? You'd think they could at least have the common courtesy to hog tie them in public places like that.


Hog tying might be just a wee bit much, Mr. R. :mrgreen: But I do believe that in restaurants people with kids that make noise or of a certain age should have a separate room that they must dine in unless the restaurant is McDonald's or some kids pizza joint. Eating out is very expensive and adults should be able to enjoy themselves without a bunch of ruckus.

Hog tying, hobbling, leg irons, police chokehold, I don't really care. Whatever it takes to ensure a quiet and peaceful dining experience for the other patrons.


I think some duct tape would work swell, don't you Mr. R? It's economical, comes in a nice prison gray color, can be used to keep someone securely in their chair and help to control all the "yap yap". It's true, duct tape can be used for anything.


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01 Feb 2016, 11:03 pm

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Kraichgauer and Raptor, am I going to have to give you boys a spankin'?

Now, go cut me a switch from that them there peach tree. :mrgreen:


Better pack a lunch...

We'll stop by Subway first. I'll buy! :ninja:


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01 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Every post you've ever made to me and everyone else - with the exception of your bff - has been bullying and denigrating. And as I've pointed out more than once, you've blamed the victim for being weak, or acting differently.

Every post, eh? If that were the case with over 10k posts of nothing but bullying and denigrating people I would have been banned not once but multiple times over the years.
Hint: Disagreeing isn’t bullying.

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And the good old days of teachers and janitors beating kids, when men were men, women were women, gays were beaten without repercussions (closet case conservatives could get away with this as a cover), and blacks knew their place!! ! ! ! ! Oh, boy, how I ache for the good old days!! ! ! ! :P

Nice straw man but I knew you’d have to work blacks and gays in there somehow. It’s a signature trait of yours.


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As for mudslinging - personally expressing an opinion about a reprehensible person is one thing, while going out of one's way to destroy a person for political gain is another. So go ahead, remember all you like.

Whatev… :roll:[/quote]

Disagreeing is one thing, demeaning is quite another.
And I can't speak for others, but I'm not s snitch. The only time I'd complain about someone else is if I received a threat from them, as I did from one NT who had briefly belonged to WP. Besides calling me an Aspie ret*d, he sent me pictures from a site regarding murder and bloody mutilation.


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01 Feb 2016, 11:11 pm

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If adults are allowed to smack kids for misbehaving then kids should be able to smack adults for misbehaving.

Hit your kid and your kid will hit other kids. Bully your child and your child will think it's okay to bully other children. Sexually abuse your kid and he/she will perform those same acts on other children, not even realizing that what they are doing is considered wrong. (After all why would they if their own parent does it).

As children grow other they may begin reject their parent's disciplinary methods, but many will go on to repeat the cycle when they have kids of their own. It's really not very logical to spank your kid for misbehaving, unless you want to teach your child how to be aggressive.


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f**k that piece of s**t and all parents that do this.


In my case hitting is the only way I could be reached sometimes.


I could comment on that last part, but that would be cruel. :twisted:


I can see you're being your old charming self again. :roll: Forget the kids - you need a good spanking and I don't mean in a good way.


I did say I didn't want to be cruel.


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