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16 May 2016, 10:53 pm

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Okay I tried to reply and it disappeared. What I said was why would a sex offender have any respect for a law that was passed? If a sex offender in NC wants to go in the bathroom and attack a woman he is still going to do it. Also women are statistically more sympathetic to transsexuals than men.


You know, I wouldn't mind if it was REAL transsexuals in the bathroom - that doesn't bother me. It's the sexual predators that are using this to their advantage.


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16 May 2016, 11:01 pm

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16 May 2016, 11:14 pm

How will laws like HB2 stop that from happening? A sex offender is just going to do whatever he wants to do. If I am a sex offender I probably won't say "well I really want to rape a woman, but I shouldn't go in the women's bathroom because that would be wrong." I am just going to go do what I want to do. So are you comfortable with transsexual men using the same bathroom at you? How would you be able to tell if it was a transsexual man or a biological man if you ran into a man in the restroom?



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16 May 2016, 11:14 pm

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Okay I tried to reply and it disappeared. What I said was why would a sex offender have any respect for a law that was passed? If a sex offender in NC wants to go in the bathroom and attack a woman he is still going to do it. Also women are statistically more sympathetic to transsexuals than men.


With this law it makes womens bathrooms "easily accessible" to these offenders. A man can just go and stand in a womens bathroom - no questions asked - and ogle if he wants.

I had a personal experience with this that I will never forget. Where I used to work there was an open bathroom because they were remodeling and the door to this bathroom didn't seal all the way so there was a crack between the door and frame. I was in the bathroom and this guy came in to put some IV machines in the main room and since no one else was in there he proceeded to watch me through the door. Not ONE thing I could do about it and if cell phones had been around he could have filmed me even. I was so embarrassed I didn't say a damn thing because everyone I worked with knew him. And what is someone going to say after it has happened? Thank God cell phones weren't around at that time.

This goes back to the stalls because they are not fully enclosed - anyone could look into them and film the person. And once you're sitting down doing your business, there is no way to "undo" your business in a dignified manor without the other person seeing something.


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16 May 2016, 11:20 pm

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How will laws like HB2 stop that from happening? A sex offender is just going to do whatever he wants to do. If I am a sex offender I probably won't say "well I really want to rape a woman, but I shouldn't go in the women's bathroom because that would be wrong." I am just going to go do what I want to do. So are you comfortable with transsexual men using the same bathroom at you? How would you be able to tell if it was a transsexual man or a biological man if you ran into a man in the restroom?


It's not about rape - it's about video taping.


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16 May 2016, 11:25 pm

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How will laws like HB2 stop that from happening? A sex offender is just going to do whatever he wants to do. If I am a sex offender I probably won't say "well I really want to rape a woman, but I shouldn't go in the women's bathroom because that would be wrong." I am just going to go do what I want to do. So are you comfortable with transsexual men using the same bathroom at you? How would you be able to tell if it was a transsexual man or a biological man if you ran into a man in the restroom?


Most men who really aren't transsexuals do a lousy job at dressing like women.

This is also saying that they don't have to dress like women - they can just go in as men of they want. That's how screwed up this policy is.

So far, I've been looking for some news reports about if men are having any problems with women entering the men's bathrooms, but haven't found any. This is only a "women's" problem.


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16 May 2016, 11:30 pm

So do you think a law like the HB2 would have stopped that from happening? It sounds like that is something that could have happened anywhere. That would be like if a Target employee pretended to be a janitor going to clean the women's restroom when he really wanted to spy on the women in there. But having a law punishing transgender people wouldn't stop something like that from happening.



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16 May 2016, 11:45 pm

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So do you think a law like the HB2 would have stopped that from happening? It sounds like that is something that could have happened anywhere. That would be like if a Target employee pretended to be a janitor going to clean the women's restroom when he really wanted to spy on the women in there. But having a law punishing transgender people wouldn't stop something like that from happening.


That's something that personally just happened to me. Target is making this situation (my situation) and making it easier for men to do this kind of perverted activity. Again, have someone do it to you and then come back and talk to me.

I also had another similar situation happen when I was about 8 yrs old that I will never forget. It was when I went to this Catholic school and was in the bathroom stall, these two girls just came right on up and stood outside my stall and watched my every move laughing about it the whole time. I don't know what the attraction is with people watching other people going to the bathroom, but it's f*****g perverted. So you'll have to excuse me if I'm a bit passionate about this damn subject. I'm sick of perverted men taking advantage of women and this is all because "transexuals" want to have it their way. Which of they are dressed like women in the first place going into the women's restroom, THEN WHY IN THE HELL IS THIS POLICY EVEN NEEDED?!


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16 May 2016, 11:54 pm

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Since when does being a minority mean you should have fewer rights than other people?


Because Democracy is a corrupt western system that reinforces the power of privileged majorities at the expense of minorities. That is the logical conclusion of Democracy; the erosion of minority rights.



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17 May 2016, 12:01 am

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17 May 2016, 12:05 am

Yes, we should totally restrict the rights of ten million people to protect a few dozen women from petty crimes. That makes a ton of sense. </sarcasm>



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17 May 2016, 12:13 am

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This whole controversy is just conservatives mad because of the gay marriage decision so that needed a new group of people to bully.


Other way around; conservatives weren't even aware of this until liberals started making it an issue in order to rally their base about those "bigoted" conservatives. Look at the order of events, that's not my opinion, that's the order it happened in.


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17 May 2016, 12:17 am

Nurseangela, please stop. Your hatred of trans people is evident. You've attacked trans people before like this, posting links to anti-trans sites and videos. And since Wrong Planet rules only prohibit homophobic posts but not transphobic ones, I guess you feel you can just keep posting these. But you are hurting people. Real, live people on Wrong Planet.

There are people here who in some way identify as transgender in addition to being on the spectrum. They were born as both in a world that doesn't always understand. And you are intentionally making this a hostile place for them. Many of them are young people and this is a safe haven in a world that attacks them every day for who and what they are. I would hope that someone on the spectrum would understand just how wrong it is to destroy that for them.

Please stop.


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17 May 2016, 12:17 am

You are so right - it makes more sense to take away the rights of millions of people just to cater to the minority of transsexuals (. 3% of the population - that's a decimal point in front of the 3, btw).

And that was extreme sarcasm.


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17 May 2016, 12:22 am

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Nurseangela, please stop. Your hatred of trans people is evident. You've attacked trans people before like this, posting links to anti-trans sites and videos. And since Wrong Planet rules only prohibit homophobic posts but not transphobic ones, I guess you feel you can just keep posting these. But you are hurting people. Real, live people on Wrong Planet.

There are people here who in some way identify as transgender in addition to being on the spectrum. They were born as both in a world that doesn't always understand. And you are intentionally making this a hostile place for them. Many of them are young people and this is a safe haven in a world that attacks them every day for who and what they are. I would hope that someone on the spectrum would understand just how wrong it is to destroy that for them.

Please stop.


I'm not even going to dignify this post with an answer.

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17 May 2016, 12:26 am

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conservatives weren't even aware of this until liberals started making it an issue in order to rally their base about those "bigoted" conservatives. Look at the order of events, that's not my opinion, that's the order it happened in.


You're right that it's usually liberals who antagonize conservatives, and accuse them of being bigoted.

However, conservatives never a miss a chance to prove their critics right.

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You are so right - it makes more sense to take away the rights of millions of people just to cater to the minority of transsexuals

Nobody's taking away your rights. You're free to use (or not use) the bathroom as you wish. You don't have a right to have your prejudices validated.