Is Barron Trump Autistic? #StopTheBullying

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27 Nov 2016, 1:20 pm

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It's not an uninteresting question, and this video seems to unintentionally support the idea further.


@ 1:03-1:22

If he is, it might also help explain the motivation behind Trump boarding the anti-vax bandwagon.

Wow! I do the same swiping that Barron does (see 1:11 to 1:22). My diagnosticians didn't notice it as a "thing" until I pointed it out to them.


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27 Nov 2016, 2:04 pm

If Young Barron is autistic, it would probably make sense why his father often refers to himself in the third person. I'm sure if asked why, Trump would probably say, "Oh, my son refers to himself in the third person. I just picked up his habit as a form of communion with him."



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27 Nov 2016, 7:29 pm

Poor kid! Pity the children with famous parents!


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27 Nov 2016, 7:49 pm

I notice the pro-Trump post/comments against Rosie O'Donnell are typically using autism as a "slur" against Rosie O'Donnell...

Can add "disliking people with disabilities" to the long list of prejudices the pro-Trump people have....



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29 Nov 2016, 12:23 am

Barron Trump Autism Video Poster Says He’ll Remove Clip - Melania Trump reportedly threatened a lawsuit over the video Monday

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Hunter, who said that he was diagnosed with autism at age five, added, “I truly believed Barron was on the [autism] spectrum, and I wanted people to stop bullying him over his ‘weird’ behavior and explain to them that it might actually be due to a condition.”

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Trump’s attorney, Charles Harder, told TheWrap in a statement Monday, “This law firm represents First Lady-elect Melania Trump and her 10-year-old son, Barron Trump. A video was posted at YouTube recently speculating that Barron might be autistic. He is not. The video includes the hashtag “StopTheBullying” but yet the video itself is bullying by making false statements and speculation about a 10-year-old boy for the purpose of harassing him and his parents.


I do not believe the autistic youtubers action was done out of malicious intent. He had no idea Rosie O'Donnel would retweet it and turn it into a national story and nasty comments about Barron at the victory speech were proliferating. Publicly speculating about about a 10 year olds neurology is reckless at best, doing it about the next first son was that much worse.


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29 Nov 2016, 1:09 am

So the mother took the video the wrong way when the person was trying to get everyone to stop making fun of him because he could be autistic. What if he was normal? Would that then make it okay? Making fun of any child just because they are a child of someone they don't like is not okay.


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29 Nov 2016, 2:37 am

So first of all: Rosie O'Donnell has clarified that she did not post the video in a malign intent, but because she has herself a daughter which has been quite recently diagnosed with HFA. At least they say so in a German gossip source which sounded trustworthy.

With regard to the question whether Baron might be autistic, look at the very end of this video about the Trumps with Barbara Walters: Baron rocking slightly left and right, and then his hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6gXNTT8--o

Quite a lot of statements from Melania about her son, Donald and herself in an interview on parenting.com might be of some relevance:

"He [Baron] is a very strong-minded, very special, smart boy. He is independent and opinionated and knows exactly what he wants. Sometimes I call him little Donald. He is a mixture of us in looks, but his personality is why I call him little Donald."
[about decoration] "But it’s amazing, he does not like covers with airplanes or cars on them. He likes clean and white."
[About Baron s creativity] "He loves to play alone sometimes. He can play by himself for hours. But of course he has a lot of play dates and friends that he plays with."
"He is very detailed at drawing. We travel often and he remembers everything he sees. Sometimes later the same day or the next he would build something like he saw or imagine something himself."

[Melania about herself as a kid] "I always liked to take care of myself. I always liked beauty and fashion. My mom was in the fashion business. I was 5 years old when I did my first catwalk and did commercials at 16. I went professional after my studies. My mom loved fashion, we loved to travel and go to Italy and Paris. It was something in me always. I was always very tall and skinny. Sometimes I was teased, but I was never embarrassed. I always liked myself. Even when other kids teased me, I didn’t care. I knew what I wanted to do. I found my passion at such an early age. It helped with my confidence."

Donald Trump has declared that several people in his closer surrounding have kids with regressive forms of autism, and that he believes in vaccins causing autims. Just like Hillary Clinton, he has spoken also of an autism epidemy. He is too narcissistic and also too autistic to admit it in public, that there could be some heritage stuff. But for me there obviously is: Trumps father Fred has been described as "painfully awkward and shy", his mother was quite a fashion junkie, and so are his three wifes and at least one of his daughters (a high concern with outward appearance is in my opinion quite typic for high-functioning Aspie girls and would be exaggerated for NTs), I think many people dont really see how special wife No. 1 and 3 are, because they put it all to their foreigness, for me they are pretty awkward, and also Ivanka comes across as someone who tries to be authentic, but has some trouble with it. Trump says he had behavioral issues as a teen, to the point to be sent to a military acadmey. Liza Smith says of Trump and his first wife: "I found them both refreshing, if a bit presumptous and NAïVE SOCIALLY. Trumps sister Maryanne is a JUDGE: “Scared?” she said, her deep voice rising slightly. “Every day.” "My first year [at college] was tough. I was desperately homesick; I was scared, and I didn't do very well that year." (NTs are rather not that scared in their life nor desperately homesick at college.) The judge s only son David Desmond is a NEUROPSYCHOLOGIST turned AUTHOR, btw he specializes in narcissim and depicts the rich people in Palm Beach, where Donald Trump used to live. Donald s oldest brother Fred who had a father complex and died early due to his alcoholism, has a grandson with cerebral palsy (seizures as a newborn baby). When this grandnephew of his was still a baby, Donald and his siblings Robert and Maryanne terminated their nephew's family medical coverage a week after Fred III challenged the will of their father, Fred Trump, without taking care of the high medical bills that needed to be paid. "This was so shocking, so disappointing and so vindictive," said Lisa Trump.



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29 Nov 2016, 7:42 am

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...I do not believe the autistic youtubers action was done out of malicious intent. He had no idea Rosie O'Donnel would retweet it and turn it into a national story and nasty comments about Barron at the victory speech were proliferating. Publicly speculating about about a 10 year olds neurology is reckless at best, doing it about the next first son was that much worse.

Thus, the Bill of Rights was once again reduced to a punching bag under threat of a slap suit. The Trumps' lawyers know full well that successful libel and slander complaints must prove intent to defame. I wonder if Donald will sue his way through a first administration. Regardless, the word is "out there," and people will continue to discuss the idea of Barron's possible autism unabated ... like I just did. Even a wealthy president can't sue the whole national citizenry.


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29 Nov 2016, 8:08 am

Ironically, if Trump and family were to address the rumors directly and in a dignified manner (true or not), instead of treating the assumption of autism as a personal 'insult' to the family (that must be sued into silence), people would much sooner move on. Give me a reason to tip my proverbial hat in the Trumps' direction... just once... please?



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29 Nov 2016, 9:08 am

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Ironically, if Trump and family were to address the rumors directly... people would much sooner move on.

I agree, 100 percent!! There have been MANY celebrities that have done, just THAT----David Letterman and the interns, and Hugh Grant and the hooker, are good examples, IMO----and, people just moved-on, after the situation was addressed, head-on.






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29 Nov 2016, 2:00 pm

Yeah they could have done a public announcement saying something like "There has been a rumor going around speculating that our son is autistic. I assure you he is not." Then explain why he isn't. Then that would have been posted in the media and everyone would have moved on. But instead she has to make a big deal about it.

When Jonbennet Ramsey's brother appeared on the Dr. Phil show talking about the murder for the very first time, someone brought up on Facebook mentioning autism because she was saying he had the same inappropriate body language as her autistic students. Dr. Phil on the show said to the whole audience he is not autistic. That is probably just anxiety and he said he spent two months with him so he assures everyone he is not autistic, it is just anxiety because he is talking about it for the very first time and he is very nervous and everyone expresses being nervous differently. See no lawsuit threatened. I don't know if anyone else speculated about him being autistic but Dr. Phil sure responded to the comments on his show. Even the brother didn't go filing for a lawsuit on peoples' armchair diagnoses opinion and threatening them.

It's possible Barron is just nervous and at one of the speeches he was at was at 3:AM (as I read in the comments) so he was tired so of course he is going to be unresponsive. Plus with his dad being in the spotlight, he has to deal with all the crowds and people and always having to go to places and it's like he can't have a normal childhood. If that is hard for an NT child to deal with, imagine how it might be for someone on the spectrum and how much different they may act?

Plus many other celebrities have been speculated to be autistic and no lawsuits have been threatened but then again no one has ever made videos about it. I doubt there would have been a threatened lawsuit if the speculations only stayed on the forums. I think it only happened because Rosie tweeted it and made her comment about autism and that is how it got noticed and she got flack for it too when she wasn't trying to be mean. She also had the same speculation but because she is famous and well known, she got noticed and that was how the video got noticed too. Had she not tweeted it, the video would have gone unnoticed by the Trumps.


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29 Nov 2016, 3:04 pm

Exuvian wrote:
Ironically, if Trump and family were to address the rumors directly and in a dignified manner (true or not), instead of treating the assumption of autism as a personal 'insult' to the family (that must be sued into silence), people would much sooner move on. Give me a reason to tip my proverbial hat in the Trumps' direction... just once... please?


I disagree totally. The proper answer is "none of your f*****g business". There is supposed to be a medical right to privacy. Trump is a bully who has thrown a lot of insults. In this case the insults would be completely justified.

We are in this situation exactly because too many celebrities put their ego and career ahead of their right to privacy. Bill and Hillary should have said f**k off, my private life is none of your business.

But the celebrities are adults. This is about the privacy of a ten year old, a 10 year old!!. It would be horrific if Trump gave in to this. Like I said in the other thread, as is there are too many autism parents parading their kids around in public to make political points and feed their egos. The last thing we need is First Family warrior parents.

No matter what Trump does he is going to be attacked viciously through fault of his own, so he might as well do the right thing.


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29 Nov 2016, 4:58 pm

Apology from user who created the video



That is what a real apology looks like. Not the usual standard "I am sorry if anyone was offended"

Rosie, your turn (Not holding my breath).


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29 Nov 2016, 5:32 pm

I still think she over reacted. She could have contacted him on youtube and politely ask him to remove the video and tell him her son is not autistic. But all I know is she saw it and took it the wrong way and thought it was bullying her child. I have no idea how she came to that conclusion when it was clear it was meant to stop making fun of him and calling him rude because he could have autism. But he wasn't the only one who jumped to that conclusion.


But lesson from this is it just shows how videos can be used to mislead people. You can find videos or photos of anything to support your claim.


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29 Nov 2016, 7:39 pm

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Exuvian wrote:
Ironically, if Trump and family were to address the rumors directly and in a dignified manner (true or not), instead of treating the assumption of autism as a personal 'insult' to the family (that must be sued into silence), people would much sooner move on. Give me a reason to tip my proverbial hat in the Trumps' direction... just once... please?


I disagree totally. The proper answer is "none of your f*****g business". There is supposed to be a medical right to privacy. Trump is a bully who has thrown a lot of insults. In this case the insults would be completely justified.


Yes, like I said if he addressed it directly... "none of your f*****g business" would accomplish that too. Threatening a lawsuit for positive-intentioned speculation is the opposite of "none of your f*****g business", however.

Bullying someone for an anti-bullying video is a massive misapprehension of irony at best.



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29 Nov 2016, 8:52 pm

He probably is an Aspie, or at least Donald insinuated he is autistic, not mentioning the fact that his dad even mentioned vaccines cause autism. The hints are pretty obvious here. I don't think the boy was just tired, he also made strange movements in public many times and looked more distracted than usual.

Kids like him tend to be bullied in school for having an odd behavior in public. I just hope he's fine.