Obama Orders Review of Cyber Attacks

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There you go then. With so many people complaining it must be correct.

And the frosting on the cake is Trump refuses to start out his Presidency without rushing out to antagonize and infuse the American people with his hatred as many/most of our highly experienced politicians suggest...always start off on the wrong foot seems to be their message...makes perfect sense for the drones that seek to control and profit from the ongoing around-the-world conflict our country is always forced into by these scum.

Trump won't be impeached...he's not nearly as stupid as Hillary's husband. My guess (should he leave office early) would be he might be assassinated or he might just quit...couldn't hardly blame him.

Trump and many of his friends are friends with Putin, so if the hack of republicans is true- Russia has blackmail information now. So if they dont help Russia- the information will be revealed. Plus who knows, maybe Trump owes Russia money so thats another reason that Russia helped him win.

People love to think Trump is so innocent and never does any wrong, even when proof is there. He uses Twitter to bully others on a regular basis. He's bankrupt businesses. He's refused to pay people. His foundation is indeed pay-to-play. He mocks people with disabilities. He insults women. He settled Trump University lawsuit even though he "never settles". He's dragged on many lawsuits in the past by destroying evidence. He skips briefings because "he's smart" (that was his own words from a recent interview). He lies on a regular basis. When called out on lies, he changes the subject and/or insults the person on Twitter. He's offended by SNL jokes. Many of his cabinet picks are people that are part of the swamp he wanted to "drain". He's went against many of his campaign promises already.

(Yes I know all of those things arent major, but when put together.. it shows Trump is a conman lying crook that has to get his way or he throws a fit on Twitter or in interviews)

How much more does he honestly need to do before more people realize how evil he is? People rarely have any good defense for what he does. It's the same old "Clinton is worse", "all media smears", "lies", "not relevant" and so on.

Still zero proof and the usual histrionics from the usual sources, vague innuendo with the implication that this is why Hillary lost is the most pathetic and desperate narrative imaginable. Hillary had an unsecured server in her basement as Secretary of State, she was not held accountable for this and blaming others for her at best gross negligence is a sad excuse and rationale from people who cannot accept their entire worldview being shattered. It happened, Trump is going to be president for at least the next 4 years, get used to it!

Liberals are eating out of the hand of the CIA and MIC because they are validating their feelings, it is a very odd time to be alive. Warmongers with Russia are sick in the head, they 100% should be purged from all positions of power since the American people do not want it. If we want to talk about foreign money then we can and we can start with the Clinton Foundation, oh no that's a conspiracy theory! 'But what is this?

Until someone can produce a single specific action or any shred of evidence then this should be taken with a grain of salt since it is not based on anything, anybody that is computer literate knows that they have no idea who did this which is why the FBI does not agree with the assertion from these elements in the CIA.

If you're not up to no good then you have nothing to hide, nobody would of cared about the leaks if they didn't say anything. The DNC has themselves to blame, Hillary Clinton was an incompetent Secretary of State just as much as she was an incompetent candidate for president. We are very lucky she will never be president.

But neither of those states ever directly interfered with the election as the Russians did in order to knock one candidate down.
Incidentally, Trump has had extensive business in the Middle East., including Saudi Arabia.

Anyone he picks is going to be considered connected to Putin and be compared to someone in the Third Reich.

If they're sophisticated enough to be a threat to national security, they'd probably have to be caught in the act. If they left fingerprints all over their hacking job after they were done, it seems more likely either amateur types or someone playing games rather than the Russian government.

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Cute, using my sentence structure, but fallacious. Trying to brush off the consensus of an intelligence agency as noise is not a sound argument. Even Fox news, , has recognized this. It's obviously too early to tell exactly what Russia hoped to accomplish, but now the Senate intelligence committee is investigating the matter so I think it's safe to say this deserves serious consideration.

It's bothersome that Trump is denying it. I don't think he has anything to fear even if it was just indirect help from the Russians and he had no actual connection to them. He's undermining himself by not taking this seriously. So he's either foolish at this point or a traitor.

It's cute that you think I even give you 2 seconds of thought but trust me that I don't, I don't know what post you are talking about and I am just responding to the thread.

No, this doesn't deserve consideration until 1 single shred of evidence is produced. Appealing to the authority of the CIA and cable news is what is a fallacy, show the proof if there is any. The collective butthurt is grasping at any desperate thing they can think of, the recounts didn't work so now they move on to this nonsense. The CIA has a lot of swamp to the be drained, 'the intelligence community' is exactly the problem with this country and are the reason we went into Iraq and it is the reason we've been working ISIS for years now. These people have spied on congress, they are the people that were caught red handed smuggling cocaine into the United States, they've overthrown government, and you trust these people? You've been duped, the foreign policy 'establishment' aka the CIA is serious need of some spring cleaning.

Name even one specific action that is being alleged, please do since you apparently yourself so smart now.

Did we learn nothing this year about how seriously to take things leaked anonymously to the media?

I see this for what it is: an attempt to steal the election. I already knew they planned to try such a stunt, though I had been mistaken in that I assumed they'd try it BEFORE the election. Shoulda figured that they would try it AFTER, as a last resort, knowing that trying it BEFORE would have turned the voting turnout even more against them.

http://www.investors.com/politics/edito ... rous-idea/

People know, they just don't care.

The DNC leaks which Julian Assange says was not from Russia started in like May 2015 before Trump was even a candidate, and you guys call us conspiracy theorists?

Irrefutable proof! Let's see Trump try to weasel out of this one!

It doesn't actually matter what you say to a lot of people on here, you could show Clinton eating kittens and people would say Putin had her at gun point and we just couldn't see him in the video. I've repeated extensively the sickening crimes of Clinton. Her mass murdering rampage of people across the world, corruption, laughing about killing people and child rapists getting off the hook. It just doesn't matter, some people simply do not care about this because the media hasn't fed it to them. All they can do is repeat the nonsense the lying media is pouring out about Russia. No one ever learns. The same media that said Saddam's soldiers were dragging babies out of incubators and leaving them to die on the floor and the same media that said Saddam could blow us all up in 45 minutes, had weapons of mass destruction and was connected to 9/11 via anthrax. I'm glad that some people on here are awake though.