pope warns rising populism can lead to another hitler

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28 Jan 2017, 1:09 am

...When I first looked at this headline I thought it said : rising POPULATION :.. :lol:


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28 Jan 2017, 1:47 am

well, populism applies to populations so you were not really off in that.



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28 Jan 2017, 1:49 am

If I lost you that easily then you don't do enough research;
I have also looked at your sources and can tell you that you definitely don't do enough research.

The fact that I am even telling you that you do not do enough research means that you are not paying attention; rather, more specifically, you are not paying enough attention, and the attention you do exert is still merely falling upon exerpts that are like a tree trying to represent itself as being the forest (metaphorically speaking in the manner of a parable of course). I have self-identified as many factions in the past (including both democrat and republican).

George Bush had massive resemblance to so-called Hitler; Obama had even more of a resemblance to so-called Hitler; the entire Clinton was basically a den of so-called Hitlers; and holy crap, I never thought I'd have ever said this about that treasonous scamming lying con-artist, but Bush (publicly identified as Republican) turned out to be even less of a so-called Hitler than any of the following candidates (all of whom publicly identified as Democrat).

That does not change the fact that they are all a bunch of lunatics. ALL of them... just because Bush was less of a prick doesn't change the fact that Bush is still an indirect reference to unhygienic genitalia. Also, for people who have actually bothered to do their homework, they would also know that Bush and the Clintons and Obama and gang were all working together towards an elitist/globalist divide-and-conquer agenda of WORLD-WIDE GENOCIDE, one that would make Hitler look like SAINT Hitler in comparison (holocaust-narrative revised or not).

P.S.: The SYSTEM is what is mostly in «control» over what happens to everyone. Any so-called President is really essentially but a mere puppet. Bush, the Clintons, and Obama were all essentially puppets, and it has yet to be seen as to whether or not Trump will be as easily controlled by the puppeteers as the previous puppets. Furthermore, liberals are also puppets, but NONE of the non-veteran conspiracy researchers seem to know exactly WHO these puppet-masters are. Sure, a handful of people know about George Soros, the Rothschilds, the Bilderbergs, the Federal Reserve, the Illuminati, the New World Order and other such secret-societies or infamous billionaires, but there are also forces even more sinister, more clandestine, more secretive, and before I go any further, let us go over The SYSTEM a bit.

THE SYSTEM: What IS this «The System» that we refer to ? Said «system» is a design that has been put in place originating from long ago (ever since the time of Caesar and even before... perhaps all the way back starting with Aleister Crowley). You see, the REAL threat is what DESIGNS and controls The SYSTEM, and you President-bashers can lambast against Trump all you want, but you SHOULD have been lambasting the happenings of the government since MORE than a DECADE AGO instead of only starting now. If there are always complaints about Presidents, regardless of which President gets elected, then it is time to consider that maybe it is not the Leaders that are the problem, but the BELIEF that everyone seems to think that a mere «mortal» is even needed to be everyone's leader.

For good measure, I will Embed a video that should be opened in another tab, and its COMMENTS SECTION read...


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Yeah you lost me with the whole "both sides do it argument." Anyone who says this about what is happening is not paying attention. Identifying the Republican party as a bigger threat than the Democrats does not mean that I've been brainwashed. And these are not normal times. It isn't just the usual people drawing comparisons anymore.

http://forward.com/culture/361137/anne- ... on-orders/

I will agree though that many of the things that have happened since '01 in particular pushed us towards fascism. Trump has just put it on steroids.

We ignore the warning signs of fascism at our own peril.


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28 Jan 2017, 1:53 am

That would be funny if the pope warned about overpopulation, in varying degrees of irony depending on actual policy changes.

Maybe if the Vatican came clean about their collaboration with the actual Hitler, people would take this more seriously.

Another thing, I see way too many shows about Nazis in the TV listings. I find them interesting, too, don't get me wrong. I don't believe everything in The Morning of the Magicians, but I do recommend it to people to blow their minds. Also, in sharp contrast, NHK's A Century on Film series has some rare archival footage. However, this much coverage and this much detail, an exploration of every hidden bunker and experimental weapon, strikes me as pathological. I don't have a complete argument on this, it's just a feeling.

ETA in light of subsequent posts: It doesn't seem healthy to live in a world surrounded by Hitlers. Also, I'm getting a little sick of people who don't know me critiquing my history of activism. It is like a sign that the rest of the post will not rise far above that level, though, so I guess it saves time.


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28 Jan 2017, 9:05 am

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For good measure, I will Embed a video that should be opened in another tab, and its COMMENTS SECTION read...


These sorts of opinions are becoming prevalent:

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28 Jan 2017, 9:55 am

EzraS wrote:
Ban-Dodger wrote:
For good measure, I will Embed a video that should be opened in another tab, and its COMMENTS SECTION read...


These sorts of opinions are becoming prevalent:

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Wonderful! I soon will be considered a liar and hypocrite for standing for true and not been naive enough to be on the side of Trump.


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28 Jan 2017, 10:23 am

ASS-P wrote:
...When I first looked at this headline I thought it said : rising POPULATION :.. :lol:


I think that everyone thinks that for a split second when they read it ( and thinks of the irony of it did say that).



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28 Jan 2017, 11:47 am

We haven't agreed on boundaries between public debate and bullying. There have been some articles by people on the left who have sworn off participating in things like Twitter shaming. If you just search Twitter shaming, you should find some. So, on the left we have criticized each other for what I would call a form of mass hallucination. By that I mean that people lose their normal perspective on how to behave and get swept up in verbal mob violence, or something.

There's a phenomenon in Social Psych where people lower their standards of behavior in large groups, and I can't recall the name. Show a video of young people in a group rudely breaking social boundaries to them individually and they will often feel horrified at "how far they let things go."

It's a problem, but we debate it a lot on the left. I know there are diverse opinions on the right, but the main theme I hear is you can't stop bullying because all I'm doing is telling people how much their behavior is hurting Jesus, or anti-bullying campaigns are part of the secret gay agenda, or bullying is free speech and you're just being PC. I know that those voices are just the loudest ones, and may not represent public opinion or even opinions here.

tl;dr Is there a debate about how to deal with bullying in general on the right, or do you use a different word for it, or what? How do you bring it up when you are agreeing that it is a problem?


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28 Jan 2017, 1:43 pm

CNBC: ‘Looks as if the world is preparing for war,' says former Soviet president Gorbachev

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"Politicians and military leaders sound increasingly belligerent and defense doctrines more dangerous. Commentators and TV personalities are joining the bellicose chorus. It all looks as if the world is preparing for war," Gorbachev stated in an opinion piece in Time magazine on Thursday. He added that the most pressing challenge we face today is reversing the "militarization of politics."


I think he's right. Things are only escalating.



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29 Jan 2017, 2:20 am

Tollorin wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Ban-Dodger wrote:
For good measure, I will Embed a video that should be opened in another tab, and its COMMENTS SECTION read...


These sorts of opinions are becoming prevalent:

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Wonderful! I soon will be considered a liar and hypocrite for standing for true and not been naive enough to be on the side of Trump.


The point is that can be done without doing things the left has always professed to be against.



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29 Jan 2017, 3:50 am

I believe capitalists are crying havoc and calling to let slip the dogs of war, or wars, as that is good for profits.



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29 Jan 2017, 3:58 am

Wonder if there'd be labels for Bernie of ''comrade sanders'', or Bernin or whatever if he got in claiming we don't want this change of plan happening elsewhere, that alien bearded beatnik communist corbyn will be next and destruct bourgeois pig-house, signal great the wind to uprising for all common man to enslave those he does not wish to share with! A lot of people who voted for Trump know full well who Hitler was and how he came to be, yet they still found him a better option than Clinton when they weighed it up. Hitler fixed a lot of problems and actually loved his people, if Trump does that we'll be getting that parallel next and the hive will say he's about to exterminate the mexicans and muslims just you wait! If anything dick cheney was already america's ''hitler'' with his gitmo mayhem and middle eastern democratic pollinating or henry kissinger's trail of bleakness in south america.



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29 Jan 2017, 5:44 pm

Somebody kill me. Please. :(



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29 Jan 2017, 5:53 pm

You can wait around for that, or you can get involved. Aspies are great in activist groups if we have a clear job to do and can find a way to fit in or at least not spout off too much black and white thinking.


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29 Jan 2017, 5:55 pm

DancingCorpse wrote:
Wonder if there'd be labels for Bernie of ''comrade sanders''

They had the bumper stickers designed already, just in case. I would have, anyway.


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29 Jan 2017, 6:01 pm

there is nothing wrong with being a Bernie comrade. :wtg: