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09 Mar 2017, 8:25 pm

Everyone knows about the reputation of Wikileaks. Not everyone knows a reporter that they can trust. Also, Wikileaks is probably more technically savvy as a whole than almost any reporter. Further, if you have one story, a reporter makes sense, but a file with a hundred stories needs a distribution network.

You're looking for zebras, Jacoby.


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09 Mar 2017, 8:28 pm

That the CIA plants Russian footprints in its hacks undermines the Obama Administration's claim that Russian hacking influenced the election.


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09 Mar 2017, 8:38 pm

beneficii wrote:
That the CIA plants Russian footprints in its hacks undermines the Obama Administration's claim that Russian hacking influenced the election.


Honestly makes me think about other possible false flags, it seems very unlikely in retrospect that the Sony hack from a few years ago for example was done by North Korea which further helped justified the build up of this cyber war machine essentially. Not only do the CIA have these tools so we really can't tell who does what definitively at all at least the way we currently do.



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09 Mar 2017, 11:10 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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There's some thought that it goes deeper than that, as there have been accusations that Assange is actually on Putin's payroll. Hence, no Anti-Putin revelations.


While any number of things is possible in this crazy world, I like to see evidence before believing accusations. Ever since the release of the Podesta e-mails, the media has been on a campaign to discredit and muddy up Assange. Attempting to connect all these people to Russia, without any evidence, only damages the media's credibility.


Yet, Wikileaks shies away from any criticism of Putin. I think it's not a jump in logic to assume this is only due to lack of hacked information, when they have contacts with people who could easily do that.


Assange, for whatever reason, certainly has an axe to grind with the United States. However, I have no doubt that if he were handed documents that detailed nefarious activities by the Russians, he would release them. US intelligence does not leak documents they steal from other countries, they keep them internally. Russian government hackers may very well release documents to Wikileaks as they have an incentive to discredit the US. This doesn't mean Wikileaks is biased, although they may be. It just means the people feeding them documents are sending them the kind of documents they want in the public sphere for there own reasons. Wikileaks releases documents. Any and all documents as far as we are aware at this point.



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09 Mar 2017, 11:28 pm

Jacoby wrote:
beneficii wrote:
That the CIA plants Russian footprints in its hacks undermines the Obama Administration's claim that Russian hacking influenced the election.


Honestly makes me think about other possible false flags, it seems very unlikely in retrospect that the Sony hack from a few years ago for example was done by North Korea which further helped justified the build up of this cyber war machine essentially. Not only do the CIA have these tools so we really can't tell who does what definitively at all at least the way we currently do.


It doesnt seem like they would need a false flag.

I find myself in the strange position of agreeing with Jacoby on this one. Lets get the truth and accept the consequences.

A couple things though,

just because this happened under bush, clinton, bush and obama, deosnt make trump better.

I dont want to hear about how great this program is once trump starts using it.

And he will use it.



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10 Mar 2017, 12:54 am

feral botanist wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
beneficii wrote:
That the CIA plants Russian footprints in its hacks undermines the Obama Administration's claim that Russian hacking influenced the election.


Honestly makes me think about other possible false flags, it seems very unlikely in retrospect that the Sony hack from a few years ago for example was done by North Korea which further helped justified the build up of this cyber war machine essentially. Not only do the CIA have these tools so we really can't tell who does what definitively at all at least the way we currently do.


It doesnt seem like they would need a false flag.

I find myself in the strange position of agreeing with Jacoby on this one. Lets get the truth and accept the consequences.

A couple things though,

just because this happened under bush, clinton, bush and obama, deosnt make trump better.

I dont want to hear about how great this program is once trump starts using it.

And he will use it.


Agreed.


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