AceofPens wrote:
Again, you're only coming at this from your own biased point of view. Firstly, some people would argue that gun rights are human rights, and I've seen persuasive arguments in favor of this position. I've seen other people argue that certain rights demanded by trans people aren't actually human rights at all, and I would agree with some of them. No issue is black and white. As for the "inhumanity" of the voting base, I'd advise against generalizations like that. Everyone these days seems to have that "if you're not with us you're against us" mentality, and it's quite destructive for either side's case. As for single-issue voting, I don't believe there's any such thing. When I said decisive, I meant that they're priorities, not that they're the only thing that matters in a person's decision. I have never met a "single-issue voter." Let me ask you this, though: How would you have fared if Trump had been the one who was pro-trans, while Clinton was avidly anti-trans, so much so that she supported eugenics? Would you have had an easy time voting for her? These are the problems that many people face when voting, whether or not it has been your own experience.
Well some of the trouble with the gun rights thing is sometimes the narrative seems more fear mongering than reasonable. Like instead of looking at what gun regulations make sense and which ones go too far...some gun rights people will insist that the left is hellbent on entirely banning guns. I don't know of any politicians or really people on the left advocating for a full on gun ban. So then it causes some people to get all up in arms about guns to the point to them the left is the enemy coming to take away their guns...and by that point you can't have reasonable debates or discussions about guns with them. It bothers me because obviously when you combine guns with unreasonableness then you just have a ticking bomb.
If anything some of those very vocal NRA types give gun owners a bad name with how belligerent and adamant they get in regards to the topic...its like they don't even have respect for how dangerous guns are, and act like any regulations designed to promote responsible gun ownership is 'dem liberals tryin to take our guns, don't tread...bla bla'
I am not talking about everyone who has guns and supports gun ownership...I also support gun ownership. But I do take issue with the attitude of some gun owners/supporters that try and present gun politics as having to be an us vs them issue.
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