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DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Good Cracked Article
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-free-speech-movement-might-kill-free-speech/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-free-speech-movement-might-kill-free-speech/
I can remember when Cracked used to be a kid's magazine.
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Kraichgauer wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Good Cracked Article
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-free-speech-movement-might-kill-free-speech/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-free-speech-movement-might-kill-free-speech/
I can remember when Cracked used to be a kid's magazine.
Now it's a "liberal propaganda outlet".
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Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
Yes, you are correct, it does have to be brought up, and brought up a lot, or else we do forget that history and it repeats itself. Read your history, Hitler was a minority candidate (popularity wise), all it took was him getting a tiny footing in the institutional power of the German state and he spread totalitarianism like a wildfire.
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BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
You'd like that? Unopposed bigoted hatred gaining currency?
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Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
Yes, you are correct, it does have to be brought up, and brought up a lot, or else we do forget that history and it repeats itself. Read your history, Hitler was a minority candidate (popularity wise), all it took was him getting a tiny footing in the institutional power of the German state and he spread totalitarianism like a wildfire.
It seems like there is an obsessive superstitious paranoia that it must be brought up on a daily basis or else it will happen again the very second it isn't. And there is a well known consequence of over saturation.
Btw I have read my history. It's possible that I've read as much or even more history than you have. I'm a physically disabled fully autistic who doesn't require much sleep and has university level savant abilities in reading and writing. Consider how many hours a day I have spent absorbing information. How many books I've read. Everything you've suggested I try reading, I have already read quite some time ago.
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
Yes, you are correct, it does have to be brought up, and brought up a lot, or else we do forget that history and it repeats itself. Read your history, Hitler was a minority candidate (popularity wise), all it took was him getting a tiny footing in the institutional power of the German state and he spread totalitarianism like a wildfire.
It seems like there is an obsessive superstitious paranoia that it must be brought up on a daily basis or else it will happen again the very second it isn't. And there is a well known consequence of over saturation.
Btw I have read my history. It's possible that I've read as much or even more history than you have. I'm a physically disabled fully autistic who doesn't require much sleep and has university level savant abilities in reading and writing. Consider how many hours a day I have spent absorbing information. How many books I've read. Everything you've suggested I try reading, I have already read quite some time ago.
Hey, consider this: I have the exact same abilities plus an eidetic memory and 20 years more research under my belt, since you want to have a pissing contest. That said, it's all irrelevant, we're talking history not our abilities, and I can tell you didn't spend too much focus on fascism or you'd understand it's a disease, and the best way to prevent a disease is daily maintenance.
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
Yes, you are correct, it does have to be brought up, and brought up a lot, or else we do forget that history and it repeats itself. Read your history, Hitler was a minority candidate (popularity wise), all it took was him getting a tiny footing in the institutional power of the German state and he spread totalitarianism like a wildfire.
It seems like there is an obsessive superstitious paranoia that it must be brought up on a daily basis or else it will happen again the very second it isn't. And there is a well known consequence of over saturation.
Btw I have read my history. It's possible that I've read as much or even more history than you have. I'm a physically disabled fully autistic who doesn't require much sleep and has university level savant abilities in reading and writing. Consider how many hours a day I have spent absorbing information. How many books I've read. Everything you've suggested I try reading, I have already read quite some time ago.
Hey, consider this: I have the exact same abilities plus an eidetic memory and 20 years more research under my belt, since you want to have a pissing contest. That said, it's all irrelevant, we're talking history not our abilities, and I can tell you didn't spend too much focus on fascism or you'd understand it's a disease, and the best way to prevent a disease is daily maintenance.
No pissing contest intended. Rather it's having become tired of you trying to flaunt your acumen and talking down to me in a presumptuous and somewhat supercilious manner. I'm just saying give it a rest already and don't make assumptions about where I am academically. Just because I don't use Nazi Germany as an analogy for a plethora of issues and events, doesn't mean I don't know or understand the history of it or the concept of fascism. I believe quite the opposite is true, because I find the wholesale way it's applied in a mountain vs molehill manner, trivializes it and causes desensitization by way of over-saturation.
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BettaPonic wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Chronos wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because hateful words can turn into hateful actions.
Though to some degree I do agree bigots should be ignored in the instances where they represent a small, fringe group for whom not ignoring would serve to give them publicity and a platform which they can use to spread their hate and attract people to their cause.
I still believe anyone should be able to spread there ideas. I personally would not censor hateful opinions. I agree companies and websites have a right to block them. I just wouldn't. Censoring opinions to me is more likely to lead to violence. When people feel oppressed they get violent.
Well if you feel oppressed because you can't promote genocide or scream about the inferiority of ethnic minorities, gay people, ect wherever and whenever you want YOU'RE WRONG!
I say they have their freedom to be bigots. I know companies don't have to service them, but it's my belief that companies should be blind to that sort of thing.
Why? If I had a company I would not want to promote nazism or white supremacy by lending my services to them. I don't think turning a blind eye to things is always the best solution...I mean maybe if I was convinced neo-nazis and white supremacists really are harmless and that their ideology won't spread any further regardless of how much they scream about it maybe I would see it differently but I am not convinced that is the nature of the beast so I don't see why anyone should have to turn a blind eye...especially businesses that have their integrity to maintain.
They have a right to be bigots and face the social consequences.
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EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Raptor wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Raptor wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Why should we care if hateful people say hateful things? To me the bet way to deal with bigots is ignore them. Let them do their thing and the rest of us live real lives.
Because saying hateful things is a buildup to doing hateful things.
Tough; that's one of the risks of living in a free society.
Sooo ... we should let democracy destroy itself?
Sure, turn it into a left wing totalitarian state just to appease the snowflakes. And when it becomes a right wing totalitarian state those same laws will be turned around and used to suppress YOU.
And before you go there, this isn't a right wing totalitarian state just because Donald Trump is in office. If it were a right wing totalitarian state you'd be able to tell because you and I would both be behind barbed wire. The difference being you'd be the one wearing stripes and I'd have two lightning bolts on my collar tab, and a German Shepard on a leash.
Count your blessings...
Nazi's don't take the weak, just by posting here you've eliminated yourself from any group that thinks they're an 'apex' social group.
Oh my!! ! ! !
Whatever shall I do????
Aristotle's Airplanes has exposed me and really put me in my place.
Next...
Just stating a fact. I mean that is what nazi's stood for: a clean gene pool, and that means no autistics.
They took what they could get once things really got rolling. Dark humor aside, I don't think we're in any immediate danger of a right wing totalitarian government.
I don't either, but neither did the Germans in 1933, and that's the lesson.
They would have if it had been brought up on a continual basis. It seems the caveat to not forget the past, got interpreted as nazi Germany must be brought up constantly and equated anything possible no matter how much of a stretch.
Yes, you are correct, it does have to be brought up, and brought up a lot, or else we do forget that history and it repeats itself. Read your history, Hitler was a minority candidate (popularity wise), all it took was him getting a tiny footing in the institutional power of the German state and he spread totalitarianism like a wildfire.
It seems like there is an obsessive superstitious paranoia that it must be brought up on a daily basis or else it will happen again the very second it isn't. And there is a well known consequence of over saturation.
Btw I have read my history. It's possible that I've read as much or even more history than you have. I'm a physically disabled fully autistic who doesn't require much sleep and has university level savant abilities in reading and writing. Consider how many hours a day I have spent absorbing information. How many books I've read. Everything you've suggested I try reading, I have already read quite some time ago.
Hey, consider this: I have the exact same abilities plus an eidetic memory and 20 years more research under my belt, since you want to have a pissing contest. That said, it's all irrelevant, we're talking history not our abilities, and I can tell you didn't spend too much focus on fascism or you'd understand it's a disease, and the best way to prevent a disease is daily maintenance.
No pissing contest intended. Rather it's having become tired of you trying to flaunt your acumen and talking down to me in a presumptuous and somewhat supercilious manner. I'm just saying give it a rest already and don't make assumptions about where I am academically.
I made no such claims, I gave you solid advice and encouragement (since I'm assuming you're referring to the other thread), if you choose to take that as an attack all I can give you is something you claim you've already read: 'Only a fool passes on proven technique' ~ Cicero, De Officiis.
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Raptor wrote:
drwho222 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/08/27/stormfront_has_been_kicked_offline.html
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
True. But I'm still not for censorship so long as they are not directly advocating violence.
I've lurked there sometimes just to see what was there, and there were some of Aspies who posted there.
About 5-6 years ago we had someone here that was a Stormfront member. He seriously wanted to create a white nationalist forum on WrongPlanet. I was mature enough to know it was never going to happen and to be merely amused by it, but the outcry against it from some other WP members was quite entertaining for me.
Yeah it's just so f***king hilarious that people were upset about the prospect of white nationalist forum here. Especially when the German Nazis actively killed disabled people and neo-nazis/white nationalists also are fond of that kind of 'eugenics'. So yeah HA HA HA at any autistic that may have been upset by something like that....
I suppose I don't really see the humour there...
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Sweetleaf wrote:
Raptor wrote:
drwho222 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/08/27/stormfront_has_been_kicked_offline.html
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
True. But I'm still not for censorship so long as they are not directly advocating violence.
I've lurked there sometimes just to see what was there, and there were some of Aspies who posted there.
About 5-6 years ago we had someone here that was a Stormfront member. He seriously wanted to create a white nationalist forum on WrongPlanet. I was mature enough to know it was never going to happen and to be merely amused by it, but the outcry against it from some other WP members was quite entertaining for me.
Yeah it's just so f***king hilarious that people were upset about the prospect of white nationalist forum here. Especially when the German Nazis actively killed disabled people and neo-nazis/white nationalists also are fond of that kind of 'eugenics'. So yeah HA HA HA at any autistic that may have been upset by something like that....
I suppose I don't really see the humour there...
Move on, it's merely a troll.
Sweetleaf
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Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Aristophanes wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Raptor wrote:
drwho222 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/08/27/stormfront_has_been_kicked_offline.html
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
Well ... Stormfront is finally dead.
... and nothing of value was lost.
True. But I'm still not for censorship so long as they are not directly advocating violence.
I've lurked there sometimes just to see what was there, and there were some of Aspies who posted there.
About 5-6 years ago we had someone here that was a Stormfront member. He seriously wanted to create a white nationalist forum on WrongPlanet. I was mature enough to know it was never going to happen and to be merely amused by it, but the outcry against it from some other WP members was quite entertaining for me.
Yeah it's just so f***king hilarious that people were upset about the prospect of white nationalist forum here. Especially when the German Nazis actively killed disabled people and neo-nazis/white nationalists also are fond of that kind of 'eugenics'. So yeah HA HA HA at any autistic that may have been upset by something like that....
I suppose I don't really see the humour there...
Move on, it's merely a troll.
Well I needed to leave that sarcastic rant there first.
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