Trump's 'Space Force' Prepares for Launch.

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27 Mar 2019, 5:50 pm

Space is extremely important as a focus of human capacity. If we don't live on multiple worlds, all known life in the universe dies on one.

This cloud of space junk is growing constantly & the only relevant space war I forsee is to clean it up.

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Orbital weapons & satellite killing missiles are a dips**t idea, according to real science. This is a thread about imaginary science.


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27 Mar 2019, 5:52 pm

Wait...so you guys are just messing around?
Well then. I just got way too...into that.



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27 Mar 2019, 5:54 pm

I'm completely serious & I'm informed. I work for the largest GPS receiver company in existence. I process satellite data every day.

Trump is lying to you. Just ask NASA.


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27 Mar 2019, 5:56 pm

cberg wrote:
I'm completely serious & I'm informed. I work for the largest GPS receiver company in existence.

I'm sorry...I might also be a little...crazy. And still trying to find my place in my short lifetime.
If you get what I mean..?



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27 Mar 2019, 5:58 pm

Ditto.

My place would seem to be debunking a lot of pseudoscientific nonsense & cultural toxicity stemming from thoughtless use of computers.


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27 Mar 2019, 6:28 pm

cberg wrote:
Ditto.

My place would seem to be debunking a lot of pseudoscientific nonsense & cultural toxicity stemming from thoughtless use of computers.


My bad. I hope you got my message though?



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27 Mar 2019, 6:35 pm

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Aliens haven't visited us yet because they took one look at our leadership and said "Nope".

That's the opinion of Calvin.
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27 Mar 2019, 7:04 pm

Cberg, what exactly are you debunking? Are satalites a conspiracy or something? So you are saying we have so much debris that we cannot launch satellites into space? Mighty strange that we actually have them and that other countries have them. The point of a space force is to have people more specialized in orbital space defensive technology. This conversation is getting odd. So we have satellites in orbit, but we have too much debris for satellites in orbit, and someone isn't aware of the 'facts' if one were to say we need another force whom specializes in space deffenise technology which already exists and is already in orbit???

Perhaps Neal deGrasse Tyson has been out witted by cberg??



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27 Mar 2019, 7:09 pm

Dude, there are already two military & NASA organizations monitoring the space junk catastrophe. Blowing up satellites could easily make human space flight completely impossible.

Feel free to click my links or not.
http://stuffin.space/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network

It's not some "classified" crackpot theory, it's just that we're all free to use the internet for learning yet here I am writing the citations for everyone. :(

My office processes GPS data & satellite images every day. We are every bit as concerned about this as any famous cosmologist.


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27 Mar 2019, 7:30 pm

I wonder what kind of uniform the Space Force will wear, Perhaps something like this.


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27 Mar 2019, 7:40 pm

cberg wrote:
Dude, there are already two military & NASA organizations monitoring the space junk catastrophe. Blowing up satellites could easily make human space flight completely impossible.

Feel free to click my links or not.
http://stuffin.space/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Surveillance_Network

It's not some "classified" crackpot theory, it's just that we're all free to use the internet for learning yet here I am writing the citations for everyone. :(

My office processes GPS data & satellite images every day. We are every bit as concerned about this as any famous cosmologist.


I'm trying to nail down what you are saying, you claimed to debunk me, yet I haven't made any claims other than we need a space force, and we do. I'm well aware of orbital debris, I'm well aware of NASA satellites, I'm also aware that China is putting satellites into to orbit without proper notification, one of the reasons it is claimed we need a space force, to stay up to par with other countries so they don't have an advantage over us, the norm of military. I'm also aware that they are seeking resolutions to remove some of the debris in orbit. This isn't the first time I've heard of the debris issue, they have been talking about it for over ten years that I know of. I'm kinda a space junkie, I love learning about space. the Idea of the space force is to 'specialize' in orbital surveillance and defense technology, NASA is not a military defense organization, the army specializes in ground defense, the air force specializes in air defense, the space force will be specialized in space defense, I'm pretty sure everyone is up to par on space debris, this isn't even Trumps original idea, as how things usually are, it's been on the back burner for quite some time, so I'm sure all these people involved would be aware of orbital debris. The military already has satellites in orbit, it's simply a way to separate something which already exists into to its own specialized force.

I didn't say that space debris is a conspiracy, I'm trying to figure out what you are debunking. You claimed I don't know the facts, are you saying...

we can't put anymore satellites in space? Then how exactly is China doing it?
Like I said, I'm pretty sure they would include the well known calculations of orbital debris, it's not a new finding. All they are doing is renaming the portion of the military that already specializes in orbital technology and dividing the budget, separating that department from the air force. I don't think their goal is to launch 1000 more satellites, that want to simply monitor what other countries are doing, mainly China as they are doing some suspicious things like not notifying the proper people when they are launching satellites. I've heard they are well aware that space weaponry is not too practical because they are orbital satellites, they don't fly around to a location to strike.

Edit: A space force is inevitable as technology evolves.



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27 Mar 2019, 7:49 pm

I just can't take the one-upmanship seriously any more. If we're not collaborating on space exploration, I think we'll be selling everyone short. You never know:


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27 Mar 2019, 8:05 pm

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I just can't take the one-upmanship seriously any more. If we're not collaborating on space exploration, I think we'll be selling everyone short. You never know:

It seems pretty wise in my opinion. Sure mankind is ridiculous with war, but one country stopping does nothing but make that country vulnerable. Like I said, all they are doing is a label change, they aren't seeking to start a whole new thing, it already exists, it's just labeled under the air force, now those people who monitor military satellite data will be known as the space force. Hence, you join the army for ground defense, the air force for air defense, now if you join the new category, you will be focused within satellite technology. Therefore, the air force will have a reduction in funds and a new department will be known as a space force.

Had we not been worried about one upping each-other, america would have fell behind and be vulnerable, so I can kinda understand why one would want to stay on top of things, letting your guard down solves nothing, it makes you an easy target, this applies to a ton of things which has nothing to do with war.

Yes, I don't like war, not liking it doesn't make it go away, it's the dirty nature of nature, we aren't the only species which battle each-other, there are plenty of them actually, it's a part of nature sadly. We have evolved into much more complex and intelligent creatures, that's the only reason we appear to be so different, we are not separate from nature, as much as some like to think so.



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27 Mar 2019, 8:16 pm

China has been doing a lot of sketchy things in the last 10 years, they don't exactly treat people in a humane way either, so it would definitely suck to drop your guard on them, they put tracking devises on school kids, I mean damn, that country is pretty mad on power and domination, even on their own citizens.



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27 Mar 2019, 8:23 pm

So lets say the United States stays out of this while Russia and China go forward with it.