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12 Apr 2019, 12:32 am

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Make no mistake, whatever charges they cook up for the books, they are after him because he told the truth about corruption and power and refused to lie and cover up for them.


Yep. While mass murderers like Bush and Obama walk free.


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12 Apr 2019, 2:26 am

the only impression i got from the files is that the people in the government writing those stuff might be actually of the same age as us... those grammar sounds like they are straight out of a bodybuidling or gaming or pop music forum .



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12 Apr 2019, 2:32 am

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So give me some examples of what he shouldn't have revealed. US military shooting Reuters journalists? Corruption in the Kremlin? Hillary Clinton revealing she knows the Saudis fund ISIS while she took millions in donations from them? Mass murder? Torture? I'm sure there were "traitors" like him under the Nazis.


Isn't it interesting though, if he did expose Hillary Clinton, that the same GOP that was yelling about having her locked up also wants to lock up the guy that supposedly exposed her? Based on that would you still think Trump is a good leader for this country since its his GOP who is after julian assange?


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12 Apr 2019, 6:33 am

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the same GOP that was yelling about having her (Hillary) locked up also wants to lock up the guy (Assange) that supposedly exposed her? (Hillary)

That's checkmate there...



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12 Apr 2019, 6:35 am

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Wikileaks also went to great lengths to avoid publishing compromising information relating to public safety.

I'm afraid I don't trust Julian Assange to not sell this information to third parties. National security is a protection racket but it's one that's necessary.



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12 Apr 2019, 9:32 am

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So give me some examples of what he shouldn't have revealed. US military shooting Reuters journalists? Corruption in the Kremlin? Hillary Clinton revealing she knows the Saudis fund ISIS while she took millions in donations from them? Mass murder? Torture? I'm sure there were "traitors" like him under the Nazis.


Isn't it interesting though, if he did expose Hillary Clinton, that the same GOP that was yelling about having her locked up also wants to lock up the guy that supposedly exposed her? Based on that would you still think Trump is a good leader for this country since its his GOP who is after julian assange?


Right, as there is no difference in the main two parties when it comes to war and 'security', the real reasons for the dislike of Trump. Trump is acting like a spineless coward and Judas. If you read the first page you'd know I'd already said that. Maybe if everyone reads the thread then there's no need for snarky comments like Cyberdad made.


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12 Apr 2019, 10:01 am

It looks like the rape case against Mr. Assange may be re-opened.

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BBC News

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12 Apr 2019, 10:31 am

I always liked his work, wich 'team' he exposed was not important, he didn’t attack based on team, he exposed dirty activities, that was the important part. Funny thing is, people ignorant to what he does claimed he was working on the behalf of destroying the democratic party by exposing hillary, the fact is he has also exposed things about Trump also, once again, it wasn't about teams, it was about exposing corrupt activity.

I believe the rape charges are bogus, made up to discredit him and as a reason to lock him up to stop him.



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12 Apr 2019, 12:58 pm

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Wikileaks also went to great lengths to avoid publishing compromising information relating to public safety.

I'm afraid I don't trust Julian Assange to not sell this information to third parties. National security is a protection racket but it's one that's necessary.


Wrong!! ! Wikileaks is CROWD FUNDED.


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12 Apr 2019, 1:01 pm

Journalism is NOT espionage. Jamal Khashoggi died because of Trump's insisting on dismantling freedom of the press & speech.

This kind of prejudice against hackers is why I'm leaving. Because of my knowledge, you assume I'm lying.

Good luck with all the presumptions everybody.


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12 Apr 2019, 5:34 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
So give me some examples of what he shouldn't have revealed. US military shooting Reuters journalists? Corruption in the Kremlin? Hillary Clinton revealing she knows the Saudis fund ISIS while she took millions in donations from them? Mass murder? Torture? I'm sure there were "traitors" like him under the Nazis.


Isn't it interesting though, if he did expose Hillary Clinton, that the same GOP that was yelling about having her locked up also wants to lock up the guy that supposedly exposed her? Based on that would you still think Trump is a good leader for this country since its his GOP who is after julian assange?


It's not just Trump, the entire American government is after him and have been since he started exposing things.

Also, cberg, Trump calling out media for constantly lieing is not an attack on freedom of press, there is no policy Trump is trying to push that would ban freedom of press, though the left is trying to push for such restrictions.



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12 Apr 2019, 7:06 pm

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cyberdad wrote:
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Wikileaks also went to great lengths to avoid publishing compromising information relating to public safety.

I'm afraid I don't trust Julian Assange to not sell this information to third parties. National security is a protection racket but it's one that's necessary.


Wrong!! ! Wikileaks is CROWD FUNDED.

Which is all very well how they are funded. But the two issues that concern me are;
1. Wikileaks can't guarantee what what they release is either misleading or fraudulent. popularized conspiracies about the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, such as tweeting an article which suggested Clinton campaign chairperson John Podesta engaged in satanic rituals (which was later revealed to be false), implying that the Democratic Party had Seth Rich killed, suggesting that Clinton wore earpieces to debates and interviews, claiming that Hillary Clinton wanted to drone strike Assange, promoting conspiracy theories about Clinton's health, and promoting a conspiracy theory from a Donald Trump–related Internet community tying the Clinton campaign to child kidnapper Laura Silsby.

Assange is partly responsible for Trump's election victory, their twitter account was in direct contact with Trump Jnr prior to the 2016 election

2. Wikileaks does a data dump which is published to the public. But they decide what gets published and the rest kept in secure encrypted database. Either way the information they release is potentially usable by terrorist organisations or the stuff they hide is potentially for sale



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12 Apr 2019, 9:03 pm

Wikileaks has a decent record for accuracy. 100%. Australian mainstream media probably has about 0.0001%

Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC and he was the leak. I know this for a fact.


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13 Apr 2019, 12:06 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Australian mainstream media probably has about 0.0001%

Well that certainly might apply to the Murdoch press...
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Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC and he was the leak. I know this for a fact.

evidence?



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13 Apr 2019, 12:47 am

Talking about ABC especially.

I can't give my source but i trust it. It speaks volumes that Wikileaks put a reward up to find his killers. Also Bill Binney has proved the DNC files were leaked.


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13 Apr 2019, 1:04 am

You dont think people should be accountable for civilian deaths?