The Republicans used 9/11 to trick Democrats in NC

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15 Sep 2019, 4:12 pm

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Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

Facts appear to show that Democrats were told in advance that a vote was to take place.

"The Associated Press reported that the office of Republican Speaker Tim Moore provided audio from Tuesday’s floor session of Lewis saying that recorded votes would happen Wednesday"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -ceremony/

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15 Sep 2019, 4:46 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

Don't waste your time with people who are indoctrinated with phony news.

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15 Sep 2019, 4:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

I'm just going to laugh at you from now on :lol:

you have lost the plot.

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15 Sep 2019, 4:52 pm

This is why I left the GOP and shun the Dems. They are both so deeply entrenched in their respective ideologies that neither side is willing to make compromises to get things done. They're too busy calling each other names and doing whatever they can to secure their power to do anything else, anyways. It's why I chose a small, local party as my political affiliation of choice. I can't handle the drama of the national ones.

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15 Sep 2019, 5:12 pm

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You don't need to choose a party, that's the route to all evil.

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15 Sep 2019, 7:01 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

Why would the Dems lose out on that vote, then? I'm not being allowed to view the actual article, so I have no idea how legitimate this claim is. Even if the Democrats were told about the day of the vote, were they told the time?

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15 Sep 2019, 7:02 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

I'm just going to laugh at you from now on :lol:

you have lost the plot.

He who laughs last laughs the loudest, and I'm certain that will be me.

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15 Sep 2019, 7:09 pm

It's gonna get worse for liberals if Trump wins again :lol:

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15 Sep 2019, 7:21 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

It's gonna get worse for liberals if Trump wins again :lol:

The operative word is "if."

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15 Sep 2019, 7:29 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

Likely, cause they rarely go to work.

So, they don't know what's going on.

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15 Sep 2019, 7:31 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

Likely, cause they rarely go to work.

So, they don't know what's going on.

Who says they rarely go to work?

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15 Sep 2019, 7:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Looks like liberals need to apologise for pushing another hoax.

You conservatives ignore all the facts you can to spin a situation your way.

"While most North Carolinians were remembering the lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001, the Republican leaders in the General Assembly took advantage of a half-empty House and voted to override the governor’s budget veto Wednesday morning.

Gov. Roy Cooper (D) said in a news conference that House Republicans called for a “surprise vote” while he and House members were honoring first responders on the anniversary of 9/11.

“Republicans called a deceptive surprise override of my budget veto,” Cooper said. “Unfortunately, it’s the people of North Carolina who lose.”

House Minority Leader Darren Jackson (D) said he told his caucus members that they did not need to be in attendance and that state Rep. David Lewis (R), chairman of the Rules, Calendar and Operations Committee, gave Jackson his word that there would be no votes, according to the News & Observer.

Republican leaders denied giving any such assurance. The Associated Press reported that the office of Republican Speaker Tim Moore provided audio from Tuesday’s floor session of Lewis saying that recorded votes would happen Wednesday.

Republicans also disputed the claim by the governor and other Democrats that many of them were attending events remembering 9/11 victims and first responders. Local news reports said only one or two Democrats claimed to have been attending a 9/11 memorial at the time of the vote.

Republicans were unable to override the veto for about two months as long as Democrats were present in the chamber, Cooper said. The General Assembly needs a three-fifths majority to override a veto, which Republicans lack.

The House is allowed to conduct business as long as at least 61 of 120 members are present. There were 64 members present Wednesday morning.

Rep. Jason Saine (R) made the motion to review the budget shortly before 9 a.m., according to the News & Observer, and Moore dismissed objections from the Democrats present.

“This is a tragedy. This is a travesty of the process, and you know it,” Rep. Deb Butler (D) yelled before the vote began. “Mr. Speaker, how dare you, Mr. Speaker!”

State Rep. Mary Belk (D) said at a news conference that Moore “kept talking over us. He turned off our mics,” the AP reported.

In a tweet shortly after the vote, Democratic state Sen. Jeff Jackson called Republicans’ behavior “plainly unethical.”

As Moore threatened to have Butler removed from the chamber, her Democratic colleagues surrounded her to prevent her arrest, according to video of the confrontation. Butler told Moore he would have to answer to the people of North Carolina.

Clarification: An earlier version of this article overly generalized the reason for Democrats’ absence from the General Assembly session. This version has been updated."

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politic ... -ceremony/

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15 Sep 2019, 7:44 pm

^ In other words, Republicans played hardball straight by the rules, and the stupid incompetent Democrats got caught with their pants down because they were too lazy to come to work. Then they whine and play crybaby about losing a vote.

Also Democrats: "Vote for us, because we're tough and we won't let Iran and North Korea get away with anything!" :roll:

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15 Sep 2019, 9:09 pm

I know this is supposed to make the republicans look bad, but it comes off more as the democrat politicians sounding like vunerable children. Really when I think about it I hear a lot about the big bad bullies picking on them.

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16 Sep 2019, 1:14 am

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No, the Republicans come across as dishonest and treacherous.

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16 Sep 2019, 1:15 am

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No, it makes the Democrats look honorable, whereas the Republicans come across as liars.

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