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30 Sep 2019, 6:58 am

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What's Trump's excuse? Other than just letting his mental faculties wither away from lack of use. I mean, the guy doesn't even read anything!


Are you accusing him of never using a teleprompter?



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30 Sep 2019, 7:12 am

It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


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30 Sep 2019, 7:24 am

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It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


This belief is quite common among American families:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... estry.html


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30 Sep 2019, 7:30 am

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If they cheat again and force in Warren or Biden as the candidate one must assume they actually want Trump to win rather than a real progressive.


How is Warren not a real progressive? She was the bane of Republicans, going after Wall Street and big business.


Lol, nope. She says she wouldn't take big money in the primaries but would in the generals. If you'd been watching Jimmy Dore like I told you to do months ago then I wouldn't have to waste my time correcting you. Her name keeps popping up on big donor lists who say she has a public image and then a private one.

And not to mention, Trump will eat her alive. He got her to take a DNA test and humiliate herself on a world stage. And LMAO, about making out her family misinformed her. It would have been pretty obvious they were lying given that none of them are Native Americans either :lol:


Warren went by what her family had been telling her her whole life. Passing along misinformation while believing it true doesn't constitute a lie.
Anybody who holds this against Warren has to be incredibly intellectually shallow, and is only looking for a reason to vote against her.
Trump is getting financial support from dirty businessmen like Adelson, as Trump isn't actually the billionaire he boasts he is, and thus can't support his own campaign.


Her family told her the same thing as mine told me, that I have Native American ancestry. Hundreds of people are told that. There's nothing unique about it. But I bet her family never told her that she was an American Indian. And I have no reason to believe that she did not know the difference, the same as the rest of us. The poor Elizabeth was a victim of false information claim comes off as a pure nonsense attempt at damage control, and whataboutism of Trump as a deflection.



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30 Sep 2019, 7:45 am

beneficii wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


This belief is quite common among American families:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... estry.html


Thinking or knowing that you as a white person have a trace of Native American in you does not mean you write down your race as American Indian on legal documents.

I know that I am part Sioux. I also know full well that I am not an American Indian.

I remember when I first moved to Washington I wanted to explore the woods and beaches of a huge nearby reservation. And I messaged an actual Indian I knew on the internet who lives in Seattle to ask if that was alright. I titled the message "Stupid white boy question". I never thought that I was one of them.



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30 Sep 2019, 7:46 am

Jack Tapper fact-checks Jim Jordan on Trump-Ukraine scandal:


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30 Sep 2019, 11:38 am

What Ezra said. She claimed to be a "woman of colour" stop deflecting!

And sorry, CNN isn't a legitimate news source. They pushed the Russiagate hoax for 3 years same as dumb Young Turks so they have no legitimacy.


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30 Sep 2019, 11:40 am

Focusing on Trump rather than Biden. It is like how they completely ignored Hillary's crimes.
Tapper would never have someone like Aaron Mate on because he'd get humiliated.


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30 Sep 2019, 1:03 pm

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What Ezra said. She claimed to be a "woman of colour" stop deflecting!

And sorry, CNN isn't a legitimate news source. They pushed the Russiagate hoax for 3 years same as dumb Young Turks so they have no legitimacy.


When it is an open debate between two members of opposing political parties, I don't think it matters what network is hosting it.



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30 Sep 2019, 1:32 pm

I guess. But CNN intentionally leaves out unwanted facts.


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30 Sep 2019, 2:33 pm

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Focusing on Trump rather than Biden. It is like how they completely ignored Hillary's crimes.
Tapper would never have someone like Aaron Mate on because he'd get humiliated.


Ignored Clinton's alleged crimes?!?!?! How many fruitless investigations into Benghazi had CNN reported on?


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30 Sep 2019, 2:36 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
:lol:

If they cheat again and force in Warren or Biden as the candidate one must assume they actually want Trump to win rather than a real progressive.


How is Warren not a real progressive? She was the bane of Republicans, going after Wall Street and big business.


Lol, nope. She says she wouldn't take big money in the primaries but would in the generals. If you'd been watching Jimmy Dore like I told you to do months ago then I wouldn't have to waste my time correcting you. Her name keeps popping up on big donor lists who say she has a public image and then a private one.

And not to mention, Trump will eat her alive. He got her to take a DNA test and humiliate herself on a world stage. And LMAO, about making out her family misinformed her. It would have been pretty obvious they were lying given that none of them are Native Americans either :lol:


Warren went by what her family had been telling her her whole life. Passing along misinformation while believing it true doesn't constitute a lie.
Anybody who holds this against Warren has to be incredibly intellectually shallow, and is only looking for a reason to vote against her.
Trump is getting financial support from dirty businessmen like Adelson, as Trump isn't actually the billionaire he boasts he is, and thus can't support his own campaign.


Her family told her the same thing as mine told me, that I have Native American ancestry. Hundreds of people are told that. There's nothing unique about it. But I bet her family never told her that she was an American Indian. And I have no reason to believe that she did not know the difference, the same as the rest of us. The poor Elizabeth was a victim of false information claim comes off as a pure nonsense attempt at damage control, and whataboutism of Trump as a deflection.


So you don't consider yourself to be a Native American - - that's your choice, but it might not be the choice of someone else. What you are is determined in the end by who you consider yourself to be.


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30 Sep 2019, 2:39 pm

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It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


Plenty of people with a degree of Native American ancestry don't look it. Many look white or black, depending on the amount of other ancestry.


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30 Sep 2019, 4:23 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


Plenty of people with a degree of Native American ancestry don't look it. Many look white or black, depending on the amount of other ancestry.


My dad used to chuckle about one nearby woman who maintained her tribal membership. Her fraction of Native American blood was much smaller than his.



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01 Oct 2019, 1:53 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


Plenty of people with a degree of Native American ancestry don't look it. Many look white or black, depending on the amount of other ancestry.


F**k this. All you do is make strawman arguments. No one is talking about ANCESTRY. She claimed to be a Native American, not someone with Native ancestry.

And you've done the same with Clinton. Not talking about f**king Benghazi.


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01 Oct 2019, 1:57 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
It's hilarious that anyone believes the B.S that Warren was just going by what her family told her. What a crock of s**t. I REPEAT, ironically, that her own family are obviously not Natives so unless she is blind there is no excuse for her outrageous lies.


Plenty of people with a degree of Native American ancestry don't look it. Many look white or black, depending on the amount of other ancestry.


What does that have to do with Warren writing American Indian as her race on a legal document?