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Does Trump have absolute right he says?
Poll ended at 19 Oct 2019, 1:02 am
Yes 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
No 89%  89%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 18

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08 Oct 2019, 12:39 am

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Matt Shea seems to be the epitomy of the type of people attracted to Trump rallies
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... eam-rugged

Pro-Trump Pro-Republican and allies himself with neo-confederates wanting a white christian separate state in Spokane.


It astounds me why people in my district continue to vote for this loon. I can only hope that it's because he has a familiar name and is an office holder and not because people around here agree with him.


That's the $64,000 question...if you answer that you might get more insight into the minds of the average Trump voter


Unfortunately, I might not like the answer, as these are my neighbors. :(


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08 Oct 2019, 12:47 am

oops :?

Well that's awkward :|



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08 Oct 2019, 12:53 am

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oops :?

Well that's awkward :|


Well, some of them.


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08 Oct 2019, 1:54 am

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There might be some rabid Obama supporters----but very few with the intensity of Trump's supporters.

I have a critical view of Obama. I don't feel he can do "no wrong." He was, by no means, the best President we ever had.

But at least he's now trying to screw with the Constitution the way Trump is seeking to screw with the Constitution.


I have not seen what I would call rabid worship of Trump. Especially here. I wonder if it is something that actually exists in quantity, or if it is just repeated so much some believe it to be so.


I think it very much depends on the environment. In my life I don't know any Trump supporters. I work at a liberal university in a liberal city. In September of 2016 I took a drive across the state to go to a football game. In my city every yard sign was "I'm With Her." Out in the country the yard signs were all in a line along the highway so people driving past could see, and nearly all were "Trump-Pence."

I know rabid Trump supporters exist even if I don't come into contact with them.


I'd say I live in a fairly liberal area but there are right wingers and I certainly don't assume they're all MAGAs. Of course when I see someone in a pick up with a giant don't tread on me flag on one side and a giant blue line flag on the other side. Perhaps a f*ck your feelings bumper sticker, Trump stickers and a painful amount of american flag stickers who then proceeds to blast a big cloud of black smoke out their tail-pipe or at the very least rev up aggressively when the light turns green. It is hard not to assume they're a bit of an extremist.


The things I read about them is what comes off as extremist to me.



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08 Oct 2019, 1:58 am

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This second whistleblower could be a problem for Trump depending on what in the new whistleblowers statement.It could be the difference in whether the senate convicts or not.

And a lot depends on how stuborn senate republicans are and what evidence they will accept as valid,they still claim there was no quid pro quo in the july 25th phone call.Right now I would say everything is to up in the air to make a guess on Trump's future


Lol there's a backup whistleblower now? Unbelievable. This stinks to high heaven. And those who want the President booted couldn't care less about that.



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08 Oct 2019, 2:04 am

EzraS wrote:
The things I read about them is what comes off as extremist to me.


And yet this doesn't come across as extreme to you?? do you ever wonder why people think you wear rose coloured glasses Ezra...

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08 Oct 2019, 2:14 am

cyberdad wrote:
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The things I read about them is what comes off as extremist to me.


And yet this doesn't come across as extreme to you?? do you ever wonder why people think you wear rose coloured glasses Ezra...

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Those look photoshopped tbh. Or at best cherry picked. If that is the norm I should be seeing everywhere. I don't wear rose tinted glasses. It's just that don't spend time in leftist internet domains.



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08 Oct 2019, 2:15 am

In another words you choose to cherry pick the crowd yourself at a Trump rally and wear blinkers at all the crazy nutters



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08 Oct 2019, 2:20 am

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In another words you choose to cherry pick the crowd yourself at a Trump rally and wear blinkers at all the crazy nutters


There are hours of news footage of hundreds of rioters acorss the country.



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08 Oct 2019, 3:37 am

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In another words you choose to cherry pick the crowd yourself at a Trump rally and wear blinkers at all the crazy nutters


There are hours of news footage of hundreds of rioters acorss the country.


If you are talking about climate change activists, they are protesting for the sustainability of your future.

Trump supporters rally to cheer a man who is likely destroying their own future but are happy to watch him line his own pockets



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08 Oct 2019, 4:14 am

EzraS wrote:
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This second whistleblower could be a problem for Trump depending on what in the new whistleblowers statement.It could be the difference in whether the senate convicts or not.

And a lot depends on how stuborn senate republicans are and what evidence they will accept as valid,they still claim there was no quid pro quo in the july 25th phone call.Right now I would say everything is to up in the air to make a guess on Trump's future


Lol there's a backup whistleblower now? Unbelievable. This stinks to high heaven. And those who want the President booted couldn't care less about that.


Why is it so unbelievable that there would be more than one whistle blower?


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08 Oct 2019, 4:45 am

cyberdad wrote:
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In another words you choose to cherry pick the crowd yourself at a Trump rally and wear blinkers at all the crazy nutters


There are hours of news footage of hundreds of rioters acorss the country.


If you are talking about climate change activists, they are protesting for the sustainability of your future.

Trump supporters rally to cheer a man who is likely destroying their own future but are happy to watch him line his own pockets


I completely misread your post when I wrote that. But I was talking about the nutter riots over Trump being elected. I do not see how the President is destroying anyone's future. But then I am not buying into the hysteria that that we are doomed within a handful of years. I think as soon as a democrat is potus it will stop being such an immediate crisis. The same as how the terrorist crisis seemed to abate after Bush got reelected.



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08 Oct 2019, 4:52 am

Oh ok you are talking about anti-Trump protestors...my bad...



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08 Oct 2019, 4:56 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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This second whistleblower could be a problem for Trump depending on what in the new whistleblowers statement.It could be the difference in whether the senate convicts or not.

And a lot depends on how stuborn senate republicans are and what evidence they will accept as valid,they still claim there was no quid pro quo in the july 25th phone call.Right now I would say everything is to up in the air to make a guess on Trump's future


Lol there's a backup whistleblower now? Unbelievable. This stinks to high heaven. And those who want the President booted couldn't care less about that.


Why is it so unbelievable that there would be more than one whistle blower?


I was expressing how ridiculous I think the whole convoluted years long attemt by the democrats to get the President out of office is.
In my opinion that is all it has ever been about. Since russiagate was going nowhere it has been replaced with or morphed into ukrainegate. In between that there have been a plethora of other smaller ones like sharpiegate.



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08 Oct 2019, 4:57 am

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Oh ok you are talking about anti-Trump protestors...my bad...


No my bad. I misread what you said.



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08 Oct 2019, 5:12 am

EzraS wrote:
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This second whistleblower could be a problem for Trump depending on what in the new whistleblowers statement.It could be the difference in whether the senate convicts or not.

And a lot depends on how stuborn senate republicans are and what evidence they will accept as valid,they still claim there was no quid pro quo in the july 25th phone call.Right now I would say everything is to up in the air to make a guess on Trump's future


Lol there's a backup whistleblower now? Unbelievable. This stinks to high heaven. And those who want the President booted couldn't care less about that.


Why is it so unbelievable that there would be more than one whistle blower?


I was expressing how ridiculous I think the whole convoluted years long attemt by the democrats to get the President out of office is.
In my opinion that is all it has ever been about. Since russiagate was going nowhere it has been replaced with or morphed into ukrainegate. In between that there have been a plethora of other smaller ones like sharpiegate.


Who says it's not true? Trump and his yes men in congress and the senate? Trump clearly withheld funds meant for Ukraine's defense in return to dirt on the man he regards as his principal political rival, and that's clearly illegal and unethical.
Mueller said quite clearly that Trump was not exonerated by any means when it came to accepting Russian help.
As far as "Sharpiegate" is concerned, not only was Trump clearly wrong, but the professional meteorologists were threatened to back up the Dear Leader's error. Not such of an insignificant matter after all.


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