Washington State uses red flag law to seize guns from Nazi
21 Oct 2019, 1:39 am
Right wingers don’t equal neo nazi.
Not even alt right or right extremists are all neo nazis.
Just as antifa isn’t BLM AND BLM isn’t antifa.
You don’t care about antifa and blm victims or their family’s so stop grand standing.
Antifa could kill someone tomorrow on live television as they promised by cutting their head off and you leftist would care and say ah but it was just one person.
You don’t seem to care about the cops killed or their family’s either.
Do you care about the google shooting victims or is thwt ok cause it was a leftist? What about the Congressmen shot by alt leftist?
I honestly don’t know if you really care about any victims or like the media just see it as a way to push your agenda. Seriously I’m wondering as if you cared you wouldn’t I ore then victims of the left and the victims of antifa and BLM.
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21 Oct 2019, 1:43 am
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
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21 Oct 2019, 1:54 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
The modus operandi is exactly like lone jihadists who are brainwashed online. Classic example is Brendon Tarrant who was completely re-programmed by spending time on 4chan before going on his murder spree
21 Oct 2019, 2:03 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
None of that amounts to neo-nazis killing anyone. So far it looks like the answer to Sly's question is none.
21 Oct 2019, 2:10 am
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
The modus operandi is exactly like lone jihadists who are brainwashed online. Classic example is Brendon Tarrant who was completely re-programmed by spending time on 4chan before going on his murder spree
What are the names of these lone jihadists you speak of?
And what programmed all the others who have gone on shooting sprees? What can their actions be blamed on?
21 Oct 2019, 2:58 am
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
The modus operandi is exactly like lone jihadists who are brainwashed online. Classic example is Brendon Tarrant who was completely re-programmed by spending time on 4chan before going on his murder spree
What are the names of these lone jihadists you speak of?
And what programmed all the others who have gone on shooting sprees? What can their actions be blamed on?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... story.html
https://www.ajc.com/news/how-american-y ... GStMM27mN/
21 Oct 2019, 3:50 am
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
The modus operandi is exactly like lone jihadists who are brainwashed online. Classic example is Brendon Tarrant who was completely re-programmed by spending time on 4chan before going on his murder spree
What are the names of these lone jihadists you speak of?
And what programmed all the others who have gone on shooting sprees? What can their actions be blamed on?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... story.html
https://www.ajc.com/news/how-american-y ... GStMM27mN/
I see it's pointless trying to have an intelligent conversation with you.
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21 Oct 2019, 4:47 am
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
None of that amounts to neo-nazis killing anyone. So far it looks like the answer to Sly's question is none.
Do you seriously believe that such social rejects have never killed anyone (because they have), or are you just trying to win this argument?
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21 Oct 2019, 5:09 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
None of that amounts to neo-nazis killing anyone. So far it looks like the answer to Sly's question is none.
Do you seriously believe that such social rejects have never killed anyone (because they have), or are you just trying to win this argument?
Belief is irrelevant. Either there have been contemporary neo-nazis who have killed acting as confirmed active members of the neo-nazi party or there haven't been.
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21 Oct 2019, 5:46 am
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Neither. I'm asking how many people have been killed by confirmed neo-nazis. Are the people on that list confirmed neo-nazis acting on orders from that organization or were they lone individuals operating solitary?
I doubt that would matter to the families of the victims, lone wolf killers are inspired by websites run by stormfront or the Alt-right or other right wing platforms just like the way lone jihadists are inspired by online propaganda by ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Only difference is that ISIS or Al Qaeda supports are sent to Guantanimo bay while white supremacists in the US are voted into political office
https://newrepublic.com/article/153276/ ... an-leaders
In other words either the answer is none or you do not know, so you deflect.
In fact right wing extremists have been going lone wolf for decades, now, in order to keep from being tracked by law enforcement. But still they're all interconnected on the internet, either with sites like 4chan or 8chan, The Daily Stormer, Stormfront, VDare, and others, as well as sites that have gone to the dark web.
so, yes, they're still interconnected, still warping one another's minds with hateful rhetoric and fantastical conspiracy theories till they're worked up to commit acts of violence. Not many years ago, some scumbag white nationalist had set a bomb to go off during the MLK march in Spokane, but the explosive was discovered in time. While the guy was acting alone, it soon became clear he was in contact with other fanatics online.
None of that amounts to neo-nazis killing anyone. So far it looks like the answer to Sly's question is none.
Do you seriously believe that such social rejects have never killed anyone (because they have), or are you just trying to win this argument?
Belief is irrelevant. Either there have been contemporary neo-nazis who have killed acting as confirmed active members of the neo-nazi party or there haven't been.
Are you seriously claiming that lone wolf Neo-Nazi terrorists who are all interconnected on the internet aren't real Neo-Nazis? Because I'm pretty sure they'd insist they are.
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21 Oct 2019, 6:30 am
sly279 wrote:
I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
You know how many people radicalized alt-righters have killed? You know how many people hate groups like the KKK have killed? You know how many people bigoted, power-drunk cops have killed? you know how many people NAZIS have killed? A s**t ton! That's way the f**k more than antifa and BLM. Antifa hasn't killed anyone as far as I know, and BLM's overall body count is extremely low.
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21 Oct 2019, 7:02 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Are you seriously claiming that lone wolf Neo-Nazi terrorists who are all interconnected on the internet aren't real Neo-Nazis? Because I'm pretty sure they'd insist they are.
I'm not claiming anything. I'm trying to establish what is and is not. The definition of a neo-nazi is someone who is a member of a neo-nazi organization.
If someone was really into Freemasonry and visited Masonic websites and had Masonic paraphernalia, would that make him a Freemason?
21 Oct 2019, 7:13 am
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
You know how many people radicalized alt-righters have killed? You know how many people hate groups like the KKK have killed? You know how many people bigoted, power-drunk cops have killed? you know how many people NAZIS have killed? A s**t ton! That's way the f**k more than antifa and BLM. Antifa hasn't killed anyone as far as I know, and BLM's overall body count is extremely low.
Do those power hungry drunk cops who have killed mean that cops are murderers?
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21 Oct 2019, 8:19 am
EzraS wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I haven’t heard of neo nazis killing people either,
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
A toga and blm have nearly killed a lot of people. So it’s fine if someone’s nearly killed I guess. It’s only matter of time before someone’s killed
Oh wait a blm guy killed two cops.
You guys are a so annoying to me. You have no compassion to the victims of antfia and blm. Let’s see how you’d feel if someone nearly beat you to death. Pretty sure you’d want them arrested and put in prison. The people antics have assaulted and nearly killed don’t see them as the angels you do, to them their w terrorist organization, and they’ve won as peope are terrified to go near them. You won’t catch ,e in downtown Portland. I don’t want to be beat to death by antfia mob.
If it was trump supports dressing and black attacking people in the streets you’d all be throwing a fit demanding they be labeled terriers and locked up.you would t be saying well they haven’t killed s gone yet only nearly killed hundreds of people so it’s ok.
Also you don’t have to kill people to be terrorist.
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
Describes antfia and blm.
You know how many people radicalized alt-righters have killed? You know how many people hate groups like the KKK have killed? You know how many people bigoted, power-drunk cops have killed? you know how many people NAZIS have killed? A s**t ton! That's way the f**k more than antifa and BLM. Antifa hasn't killed anyone as far as I know, and BLM's overall body count is extremely low.
Do those power hungry drunk cops who have killed mean that cops are murderers?
Yes. ACAB.
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21 Oct 2019, 10:02 am
Tim_Tex wrote:
I wonder how long it would take for Texas to get a red flag law.
When you-know-where freezes over.
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