"OK Boomer" may become a Fox TV show
I am also in student loan debt. I’m a Boomer. And I knew what I was getting into. No false pretenses.
I don’t believe Millennials and Generation Z-ers are all “Snowflakes” or whatever. That’s a gross generalization. I’ve met many nice and smart and resilient young people.
I don't blame the boomers. The boomers or some of them believed and thought they were doing the right thing.
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I am also in student loan debt. I’m a Boomer. And I knew what I was getting into. No false pretenses.
I don’t believe Millennials and Generation Z-ers are all “Snowflakes” or whatever. That’s a gross generalization. I’ve met many nice and smart and resilient young people.
The boomers aren't all to blame, but just not sure its really individual problems so much as collective problems that are being blamed on boomers. At least that is my observation about it.
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It’s collective...but it’s sometimes individual Boomers are lambasted as if they, individually, are to blame.
It’s rather akin to blaming present-day individual white people for slavery, and lambasting them for it.
Or for thinking all black people are robbers because one black person robbed them.
Redskins QB Dwayne Haskins misses final snap to take selfie with fan:
Former Redskins quarterback Joe Theismann wasn't happy about it, based on his postgame tweet. After the draft, Theismann gave Haskins his blessing to wear the No. 7 again; it had been out of commission since Theismann retired in 1985. But Theismann wasn't a fan of what happened Sunday, calling the selfie "unprofessional and wrong."
The fan who took the selfie with Haskins disagreed.
https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow/videos
This boomer will set your straight about your questions.
I watched this and I'm impressed with what he said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5GXzQqBgKY
This is what I liked.
He laid out a specific plan.
And, he broke out the math.
This is very good.
Now....
a. Shouldn't they have been taught things like this when they were younger. If the Millenials are the way they are today then how did they get to be that way? My answer is that they wasn't taught s**t and given all sorts of overly-simplistic slogans and advice like "be yourself", "you can do anything you set your mind to", etc. The boomers were so focused on self-esteem (I agree with conservatives on the BS self-esteem movement) and academics that they didn't really teach them these other important things.
Now, you have them in classrooms with teachers and even some parents do this. "You don't want to work at McDonalds. Keep making F's and you will." Now, these younger gens associate working at McDonalds and other places like that as being considered dumb and ret*d. The boomers inadvertently presented working at McDonalds us for misfits just like riding the short bus is for those who are considered disabled and dumb.
They were conditioned by well meaning adults in their lives to see working at McDonalds as beneath them.
The millienial generation may suck but is it really their fault? Should we heap the whole pie of responsibility upon them? For a world they're ill prepared for? Or are the boomers the one who need to look in the mirrors themselves? Did the millenials fail or was it the boomers who failed? Failed to teach and raise properly and only giving meaningless slogans.
b. What is the cost of an apartment? If the cheapest apartment is out of her price range then is his plan realistic?
c. Is she sure she will make $40,000? How does she know her figure is accurate?
Sorry, but I don't believe my generation "sucks" anymore than any other generation.
At this point, I'll happily admit to being an advacado-eating, Applebee-killing, coffee-drinking Millennial.
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The congressmen should google “Cheech and Chong”. If I could I would transfer the good congressmen to my high school bathroom in between periods circa 1973 to see the boomer attitude towered marijuana.
If the congressmen is going to chide Kellyanne Conway about misspelling the abbreviation of the active ingredient in marijuana it would behove him to get what generation she is from which is Generation X not the baby boom generation.
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This boomer will set your straight about your questions.
I watched this and I'm impressed with what he said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5GXzQqBgKY
This is what I liked.
He laid out a specific plan.
And, he broke out the math.
This is very good.
Now....
a. Shouldn't they have been taught things like this when they were younger. If the Millenials are the way they are today then how did they get to be that way? My answer is that they wasn't taught s**t and given all sorts of overly-simplistic slogans and advice like "be yourself", "you can do anything you set your mind to", etc. The boomers were so focused on self-esteem (I agree with conservatives on the BS self-esteem movement) and academics that they didn't really teach them these other important things.
Now, you have them in classrooms with teachers and even some parents do this. "You don't want to work at McDonalds. Keep making F's and you will." Now, these younger gens associate working at McDonalds and other places like that as being considered dumb and ret*d. The boomers inadvertently presented working at McDonalds us for misfits just like riding the short bus is for those who are considered disabled and dumb.
They were conditioned by well meaning adults in their lives to see working at McDonalds as beneath them.
The millienial generation may suck but is it really their fault? Should we heap the whole pie of responsibility upon them? For a world they're ill prepared for? Or are the boomers the one who need to look in the mirrors themselves? Did the millenials fail or was it the boomers who failed? Failed to teach and raise properly and only giving meaningless slogans.
b. What is the cost of an apartment? If the cheapest apartment is out of her price range then is his plan realistic?
c. Is she sure she will make $40,000? How does she know her figure is accurate?
Sorry, but I don't believe my generation "sucks" anymore than any other generation.
At this point, I'll happily admit to being an advacado-eating, Applebee-killing, coffee-drinking Millennial.
I never said that your gen sucks.
The point that I am making is people should've been taught what they needed to know to make the best possible decisions for their lives including whether to go to college or not and if so what are the best majors. And, how to manage one's money, etc, etc. To claim that millennials are narcissistic and entitled and heap the whole personal responsibility pie upon them to me is unreasonable. Millennials came from somewhere. They didn't exist in a vaccum.
I'm an Xiennal or part of the Oregon Trail generation and the Hope scholarship existed in my state. I'm glad for that but when I went to college I wasn't told what I needed to do to be successful in the IT field especially when every job requires multi skills requiring years of experiencing. I didn't realize until it was to late so many issues and neither me or my boomer parents could predict the Tech bubble busting. Before I went to college I didn't know about things like internships and even when I was in college I only still had a partial understanding of what an internship was and that we were expected to do them outside of our classes. And, we were expected to get certs as well that costed 100s to 1000s of dollars.
And, this is just skimming the surface. But, conservatives would say I should've asked. But, how could I ask if I didn't know what I didn't know and what I thought I knew and what everyone told me was the full scope.
At least I have no student loan debt. Thank God I bit the bullet on that.
But, going in with what I know today if I got a do over I would probably not go into IT since it seems to be an overly saturated field anyway. I probably would've chosen a different major or may have stayed as a courtesy clerk at Kroger and would've seen if I could claim SSDI earlier. I definetly would not go to a blue collar or trade school b/c it requires one to work with one's hand and I have motor coordination problems.
One piece of advice that I was given which turned out to be s**t advice was follow your passion. Others were given this advice too. On the surface it sounds good. But, the problem is that passion like any other emotion is fleeting. One can't base one's career on one's passion. But, one can't stay at a job that one hates for to long. That will cause burn out.
I used to be passionate about IT but I am no longer passionate about it.
Since passion is fleeting meaning that what one loves today one can dislike or hate tomorrow then one needs other criteria to go by to decide what career one wants to pursue. One needs to decide by this criteria. What will be the cost to pursue this career? Will one still be able to live below his means? Will one have an immense hatred for the work involved. If yes, then don't do it. You won't perform well and you will burnout quickly. What will be the cost to keep current with this career? Not just financial but time wise and mental as well?
And, what will be the financial reward? Will it enable one to live? Can one save with it?
Truth is some people were not taught what they needed to know and was given piss poor advice based in the self-esteem movement.
... And, what will be the financial reward? Will it enable one to live? Can one save with it?...
Careers to avoid:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2019/07/16/degrees-statistically-offer-lowest-salary/
1. Creative Arts or Creative Arts and Design
2. Agriculture
3. Communications
4. Psychology
5. English or English studies
6. Education
7. Social Studies
8. Biological Sciences
9. History and Philosophy
10. Nursing
If you are thinking about becoming a writer, or an artist, or reality TV or social media star, it's probably best to reconsider. Especially, don't let the fact that you are autistic influence your career choices, Temple Grandin has talked about this as well. Autism should not be a career: you shouldn't get into special education, social worker, psychology type of areas. Beefing up your personal skills is the way to go, don't take the easy route. Even being a car mechanic, a handyman, or a plumber, would be better than the jobs above.
Top 10 skills according to the World Economic Forum:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/21st-century-skills-future-jobs-students/
One can really see that neurotypical skills are trending down (e.g. coordinating with others, negotiation), whereas autistic skills are becoming more and more important (e.g. critical thinking, creativity).

Sure, the future is scary. But, frankly, from my angle as someone in the older generation, what I see lacking everywhere is "creativity applied to problem solving." Not to be overly critical, younger generation think that their job is to learn tools to apply to their jobs. When it comes to creating new concepts/ideas/approaches, or to find inspirations/correlations from other disciplines, they give up. You see it right here in the forum, too. People spend too much time talking about Trump and politics, even TV shows. I mean, when do you guys have time to acquire other skills? When do you guys have time to bounce your brains around with new ideas, to see things that no one else can see, to solve problems that no one else can solve?
The future is rather bright for people that are willing to invest in "creativity applied to problem solving." Unfortunately, a lot of people prefer to stay on the sideline. Com'on, the world doesn't stop moving forward. AI/robotic era is already here, we already live inside the Technological Singularity. The modern world is rather unforgiving. Younger people do have a choice. Make your choice, wisely.
Eikonabridge, excellent article.
I would like to make some commentary about critical thinking. The truth of the matter is one can't do critical thinking and expect sound results in all contexts.
You may want to read this.
https://www.readingrockets.org/article/ ... hard-teach
I don't think any one generation is "the problem" because a generation is made up of so many different kinds of people.
As a Gen X'er, the one thing that I find hard about many Boomers is that they started out with an ideological philosophy of being free, living free, thinking free and rejecting the rigid structure and rules of society only to become what they hated most. It's been sad, disappointing and distasteful to watch. I think that's human nature in general rather than being placed solely on Boomers, but still, it's sad to watch.
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I say get a work-from-home government job.
Like, in the US, the IRS was recently hiring hundreds of "tax auditors" to work from home and do small corporation tax audits. No education or experience necessary.
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Like, in the US, the IRS was recently hiring hundreds of "tax auditors" to work from home and do small corporation tax audits. No education or experience necessary.
You showed me that one time. It seems to good to be true though. But, it is the IRS so more then likely they are reputable.
I will say that your guy Ramsey gives a lot of good stuff.
I have hardly anything negative to say against this man.
He does some of the things I wish conservatives would do.
