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goldfish21
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03 Apr 2020, 12:10 pm
Fnord wrote:
If a foreign country withholds the output of an American-owned company for its own use (e.g., Socialism), then the American government is justified in placing sanctions on trade with that country, and in re-directing production elsewhere.
Who’s to say American corporations even own the factories in Canada and Latin America that make N95 masks? I haven’t read this anywhere.
And even if they did, I’m not sure how that would work. Are you sure? Or speculating and that’s your opinion?
Seems to me if something is manufactured on Canadian soil it’s deemed domestic production, not foreign because someone elsewhere owns shares in the company.
But I’m not sure how such an arrangement actually works legally/in international agreements. It’s not my area of expertise so I would pretend to know.
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03 Apr 2020, 12:11 pm
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Didn't I recently hear a rooster crowing about how well prepared and on top of the virus Canada was?
Canada is doing a better job of it. Our federal leadership has clear and unified messaging about it that people are mostly complying with - hence the lower infection and death rates, unlike the USA that currently leads the world with infection rates and eventually death toll.
Then you don’t need our masks.
Would you accept it as a fair America first deal if the USA keeps all of the N95 masks 3M produces in the USA and Canada and Latin America keep their production for themselves and refuse to sell them to the USA in return?
If you have lower infection rates and we have,then we need our masks here.If the situation changes and we are in better shape than you get the masks.
Right now I’d say New York needs them more than you.
Sooo, what you’re saying is, you still don’t understand what “Net Loss,” means, eh?
I highly recommend googling it.
And I recommend you google triage.
Are you an accountant?
I don’t care about financial loss but the loss of lives here.
Interesting you keep on about my lack of comprehension.Are you culturally prejudiced?
Now take what you just learned about calculating Net Loss of dollars and apply it to the quantity of masks available to American doctors and nurses.
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03 Apr 2020, 12:24 pm
Wow. You still don’t get it.
Go see the explanation I spelled out for Bravo5150.
A trade war of keeping our own production of N95 masks within the USA, Canada, and Latin America will result in FEWER N95 masks for America because the USA imports more of them
From Canada and Latin America than it exports to both!
Do you understand yet?
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03 Apr 2020, 12:57 pm
EzraS wrote:
Doesn't quite add up. Could you elaborate further please?
No problem. I’ll let 3M’s press release inform you just as they’ve written this to inform the trump administration:
https://news.3m.com/press-release/compa ... -act-order
Edit: The press release has more info than the original article. 3M references global production, not just Canadian and Latin American. The Net Loss to the USA would be if it triggers global restrictions on exports, not just between our 3 regions. Either way, “America First,” could result in a Net Loss of N95 masks for American doctors and nurses.
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03 Apr 2020, 12:57 pm
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03 Apr 2020, 12:59 pm
Misslizard wrote:
It could go that way.And then maybe not.
I don’t think you get that we need what we have now.
If your health system is doing so well with low mortality rates and infections why are you so concerned that Americans want the masks for our health care workers?
I don’t think you get that we need what we have now.
If your health system is doing so well with low mortality rates and infections why are you so concerned that Americans want the masks for our health care workers?
I don’t car whether our doctors masks are made in Canada or China or the USA or literally anywhere else, only that they continue to get them so they’re protected.
The reason our doctors and nurses aren’t dying in large numbers yet (like Italy and Spain) is because we still have proper PPE for them here.
Why the f**k would I want any doctor or nurse here to work without a proper N95 mask?
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domineekee wrote:
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India immediately moved to ban exports of hydroxychloroquine.
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