Uncle Ben's Rice To Change Branding Due To Racial Issues
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smudge wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
That's not what I mean and you know it.
Black and indigenous perspectives are entirely missing when history, especially the history of the Americas is taught. Your childish mocking of this fact makes it clear that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Black and indigenous perspectives are entirely missing when history, especially the history of the Americas is taught. Your childish mocking of this fact makes it clear that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Might not be what you meant. Doesn't change the fact that the 1619 project includes essays presenting that as fact. I'm all for different perspectives, but if it blatantly sacrifices accuracy in the name of a political narrative, then it has no place in history class.
You can debunk an incorrect essay, I'm sorry that incorrect idea triggers you to the point you can't discuss it.
He has a point though. If they're going to blatantly lie about history to people, then how can you take anything else they say seriously? Something so obviously trying to deceive would ring alarm bells for me too.
Clearly people believe it, it would be worthwhile to have it placed in context.
There were elements of slavery as practiced in the Americas that could be described as innovations, so the claim isn't entirely wrong even if it sounds wrong because of how large of oversimplification it represents. Thomas Jefferson personally contributed to some of those innovations.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
smudge wrote:
Karamazov wrote:
Sounds suspiciously like the Mars corporation looking at current events and thinking ”marketing opportunity” to me.
Seems a bit peculiar that statuary and so forth is being removed whilst workplace conditions and workforce freedom in the contemporary textile, mining, sex and illicit drugs industries are not being focused on.
Maybe I’m severely out of touch.
Seems a bit peculiar that statuary and so forth is being removed whilst workplace conditions and workforce freedom in the contemporary textile, mining, sex and illicit drugs industries are not being focused on.
Maybe I’m severely out of touch.
It looks like that to me too.
Very good point, why would tearing down statues make those industries change their ways? I think we need to focus on them and boycott those companies using slave labour. People who take illegal drugs often don't seem to realize/ignore that deaths and other horrible things happen as an occurrence of drug trafficking. Maybe I'm missing something here?
I suspect the lack of realisation goes across the board... how many people consciously think of working conditions and workers lives in east and south Asian textile factories whilst purchasing T-shirts on the high street?
How many people consciously acknowledge the enslavement of Congolese miners whilst sat in their GP’s surgery watching the doc enter the details into their nice shiny flatscreen computer?
I certainly don’t: and I’m aware of these things
It’s too much and too large for a single individual to feel intrinsic personal responsibility for... and in as much that none of us choose to be born into this world, this civilisation, it’s not really fair to expect humans to consciously feel so & act upon.
I’m not fully convinced that boycotting is an option: take the rare earth metals from the Congo for instance, to boycott that you’d have to forgo all personal telecommunications & computing... and all interaction with businesses, charities and government agencies that use such devices professionally: down to and including the plumber who contacts clients via smartphone when your toilet cistern fails.
Where the option of personal abstention is so foreclosed, the recourse I’d rather see utilised is fully political action: that is renewed anti-slavery campaigning, but this time targeting the legal/tax/tariff status of the importation of the products of slavery/quasi-slavery... and functioning regulation (hence legalisation) of all currently illegal domestic industries utilising slavery/quasi-slavery.
But that would take a generation or more, has no guarantee of success and is unlikely to produce a big singular “victory! We did it” moment.
Wolfram87 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Who is this "baker guy"?
This guy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_L._White
Oh...the "Cream of Wheat" guy.
Yeah.
Well...I hope they keep him because he looks like what he is. "A master chef". Both the person and the persona. The character, and (apparently from the linked article) the real guy who modeled it, were culinary black belts, who just happened to be Black. Not a bad Black stereotype of the Aunt Jemima kind.
naturalplastic wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Who is this "baker guy"?
This guy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_L._White
Oh...the "Cream of Wheat" guy.
Yeah.
Well...I hope they keep him because he looks like what he is. "A master chef". Both the person and the persona. The character, and (apparently from the linked article) the real guy who modeled it, were culinary black belts, who just happened to be Black. Not a bad Black stereotype of the Aunt Jemima kind.
I saw an article saying the cream of wheat guy will probably be canned as well.
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