GOP Sen. Tom Cotton calls slavery "a necessary evil"

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under any circumstance, can slavery legitimately be termed "a necessary evil"?
yes, in at least one case as described. :| 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
HELL NO! NEVER! :x 71%  71%  [ 12 ]
i'm not sure. :shrug: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
i don't know what in blazes the senator's talking about. :huh: 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
where's my spumoni? :chef: 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
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28 Jul 2020, 8:20 am

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i will not cease to be gobsmacked that there are actual aspies on this site who are not outraged by this situation.
Be thankful that some of us are not expressing our full outrage on this website.



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28 Jul 2020, 9:29 am

What Cotton actually said in the article does not warrant the amount of feverish outrage that is on this thread.
To quote Senator Cotton: "As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction".
The Main Stream Media is hoping you'll just read their headline condemning Cotton and not actually find out what he said.



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28 Jul 2020, 9:53 am

Thank goodness he didn’t get appointed to head of the CIA or we’d have Peeping Tom Cotton.
He’s just an awful person.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.altern ... otton/amp/


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28 Jul 2020, 10:08 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
What Cotton actually said in the article does not warrant the amount of feverish outrage that is on this thread.  To quote Senator Cotton: "As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction".
Sadly for him, the "Founding Fathers" never said that.
Mr Reynholm wrote:
The Main Stream Media is hoping you'll just read their headline condemning Cotton and not actually find out what he said.
Sadly for you, what he actually said was a lie.



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28 Jul 2020, 10:16 am

Since the article proves that the MSM is taking his words out of context to create the impression that he is a racist, shouldn't your ire be directed at the MSM for trying to deceive you?



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28 Jul 2020, 10:22 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Since the article proves that the MSM is taking his words out of context to create the impression that he is a racist, shouldn't your ire be directed at the MSM for trying to deceive you?
You go ahead and blame the Media; I'll go ahead and blame the lying Sack o'Shite which is Senator Tom Cotton.



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28 Jul 2020, 10:32 am

Fnord wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
What Cotton actually said in the article does not warrant the amount of feverish outrage that is on this thread.  To quote Senator Cotton: "As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction".
Sadly for him, the "Founding Fathers" never said that.
Mr Reynholm wrote:
The Main Stream Media is hoping you'll just read their headline condemning Cotton and not actually find out what he said.
Sadly for you, what he actually said was a lie.


Wheres the citation for your comments?



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28 Jul 2020, 10:33 am

Facts are irrelevant. Praise the Ministry of Truth for giving us our Tuesday morning Immanuel Goldstine!



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28 Jul 2020, 10:34 am

Cotton mouth.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html

Two absolutely terrifying words.
President Cotton.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... terrifying


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28 Jul 2020, 11:31 am

Fnord wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Since the article proves that the MSM is taking his words out of context to create the impression that he is a racist, shouldn't your ire be directed at the MSM for trying to deceive you?
You go ahead and blame the Media; I'll go ahead and blame the lying Sack o'Shite which is Senator Tom Cotton.


You gotta let go of hate man, Hate will consume you.



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28 Jul 2020, 12:23 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
You gotta let go of hate man, Hate will consume you.
You gotta get over the facts that I hate racism, and that I find racists contemptible as well.



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28 Jul 2020, 12:58 pm

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First and foremost, please avoid slurring groups of people for their views - for example, saying that all GOP supporters are sociopaths.

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28 Jul 2020, 1:00 pm

^ But can we refer to Sociopaths as Republicans?

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28 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
What Cotton actually said in the article does not warrant the amount of feverish outrage that is on this thread.
To quote Senator Cotton: "As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction".
The Main Stream Media is hoping you'll just read their headline condemning Cotton and not actually find out what he said.

The claim being levied against Cotton is that he called slavery a necessary evil. You have conveniently included the exact section where he does so. He doesn’t use the quote (real or imagined) to illustrate a point he disagrees with, or even simply to show that the opinion exists. He says “as the Founding Fathers said...”, which tells us that he agrees with it. It’s pretty basic syntax.

Now Cotton isn’t saying “slavery is actually good” or anything like that, but he did say it was a necessary evil, just like everyone is reporting.



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28 Jul 2020, 1:15 pm

Instead of being angry at Cotton, here is some current real world stuff to be outraged by:

Together, these 10 countries – China, Democratic Republic of the Congo, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia – comprise 60% of all the people living in modern slavery, as well as more than half the world's population, according to the Global Slavery Index.Feb 25, 2019
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Slavery exist TODAY and its NOT the Republicans enslaving people.



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28 Jul 2020, 1:34 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Instead of being angry at Cotton, here is some current real world stuff to be outraged by:

Together, these 10 countries – China, Democratic Republic of the Congo, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia – comprise 60% of all the people living in modern slavery, as well as more than half the world's population, according to the Global Slavery Index.Feb 25, 2019
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Slavery exist TODAY and its NOT the Republicans enslaving people.

That’s whataboutery. The existence of slavery in other countries doesn’t detract from the shittiness of the Senator from Arkansas.

There is plenty of slavery in America too. The same report you cited estimates that 400,000 people are held in modern slavery in the USA.

It should be noted that the GSI’s methodology has been criticised: https://www.antitraffickingreview.org/i ... ew/228/216

And of course, in the US slavery is still legal if you are imprisoned. American lawmakers of many different stripes have turned a blind eye. Some have pushed for reform, but not enough.