Board index › General Discussion › News and Current Events

Borat gets Giuliani

Page 4 of 6 [ 92 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Previous topic | Next topic

Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

24 Oct 2020, 11:22 pm

cyberdad wrote:
1. I have lectured and given seminars before so I have worn a microphone hundreds of times. In order to to pick up my voice the wire is connected at the top part of the jacket or collared shirt. I have also been interviewed twice and while I appreciate the wire needs to be hidden its not my experience that taking a wire off requires adjusting my pants. Hence my legitimate comment that it looks weird why Giuliani needed to adjust his pants.


You're talking about the microphone but leaving out the transmitter. The microphone wire goes down the torso to the transmitter unit that's clipped to the waistband. So a shirt can become untucked when removing the microphone to transmitter assembly.

As far as I know the microphone and transmitter need to be somewhat distant from each other to avoid audio feedback; the ringing, squealing, screeching noise. So a transmitter in a pocket close to the mic wouldn't work. I can't think of any time I have seen someone wearing that setup where the transmitter was not clipped to the waistband.



Brictoria
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2013
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

25 Oct 2020, 1:14 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
1. I have lectured and given seminars before so I have worn a microphone hundreds of times. In order to to pick up my voice the wire is connected at the top part of the jacket or collared shirt. I have also been interviewed twice and while I appreciate the wire needs to be hidden its not my experience that taking a wire off requires adjusting my pants. Hence my legitimate comment that it looks weird why Giuliani needed to adjust his pants.


You're talking about the microphone but leaving out the transmitter. The microphone wire goes down the torso to the transmitter unit that's clipped to the waistband. So a shirt can become untucked when removing the microphone to transmitter assembly.


Looking at the video, I wouldn't be surprised if the wire was placed below his shirt (so it wasn't visible with his jacket open), and the transmitter placed on the front of his waistband, as at the back while seated it may have been uncomfortable, or due to the microphone wire being fixed, rather than removable, and so easier to fit that way.

Looking at the footage, when he sits down, his shirt was tucked in, but while removing the wires and transmitter, the "daughter" in the footage seems to go out of her way to untuck as much of his shirt as she can (which in itself is unusual, as normally I have had the person wearing the microphone remove these items themselves, while standing), requiring him to tuck his shirt in.

The fact that his shirt is clearly tucked in when he stands up and is talking to Borat also supports the claim that this was what he was doing.



Brictoria
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2013
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

25 Oct 2020, 1:25 am

cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
I would agree...The "closest" he gets to anything resembling what was imagined was him patting her back while she is removing some of the audio equipment connected to the microphone..


Would like to get an impartial second opinion on what Giuliani's hands are doing as you are not impartial when it comes to anything that is conservative-related.


Setting aside the fact that I aim to be as impartial as possible, only providing facts (not "assumptions" masquerading as facts as some do) where possible, and clearly specifying where something I state is an opinion, is it that hard for you to actually view the footage yourself?


Just because facts don't support what you want to believe (or the assumptions you are pushing as being "factual") doesn't make them "conservative". Similarly, attacking a person's impartiality, while providing no evidence to demonstrate falsity in statements they have made, indicates an excessive level of partisanship on your part, rather than any evidence of partisanship on theirs.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

25 Oct 2020, 1:31 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
You're talking about the microphone but leaving out the transmitter. The microphone wire goes down the torso to the transmitter unit that's clipped to the waistband. So a shirt can become untucked when removing the microphone to transmitter assembly.

As far as I know the microphone and transmitter need to be somewhat distant from each other to avoid audio feedback; the ringing, squealing, screeching noise. So a transmitter in a pocket close to the mic wouldn't work. I can't think of any time I have seen someone wearing that setup where the transmitter was not clipped to the waistband.


Possibly might depend on the length of the wire. For the devices I have used the clip on microphone goes to the transmitter (the box with antenna) and the wire was short (basically long enough to reach from my shirt pocket to the collar of my jacket. So I have never had to clip anything to a waistband.

However, as Pepe has suggested its possible Borat deliberately had a wire that was so long that it would get tangled and so Giuliani would have to adjust his shirt for comedic effect?

There's still the weirdness of him asking the young woman for her address and phone number? and why he was "
"handsy" with her (including touching her lower back) which I have watched a couple of times still looks borderline weird.

But he's Trump's lawyer so I guess it goes with territory.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

25 Oct 2020, 1:32 am

Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
I would agree...The "closest" he gets to anything resembling what was imagined was him patting her back while she is removing some of the audio equipment connected to the microphone..


Would like to get an impartial second opinion on what Giuliani's hands are doing as you are not impartial when it comes to anything that is conservative-related.


Setting aside the fact that I aim to be as impartial as possible, only providing facts (not "assumptions" masquerading as facts as some do) where possible, and clearly specifying where something I state is an opinion, is it that hard for you to actually view the footage yourself?


Just because facts don't support what you want to believe (or the assumptions you are pushing as being "factual") doesn't make them "conservative". Similarly, attacking a person's impartiality, while providing no evidence to demonstrate falsity in statements they have made, indicates an excessive level of partisanship on your part, rather than any evidence of partisanship on theirs.


errr my comments are about the footage?



Brictoria
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2013
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

25 Oct 2020, 1:51 am

cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
I would agree...The "closest" he gets to anything resembling what was imagined was him patting her back while she is removing some of the audio equipment connected to the microphone..


Would like to get an impartial second opinion on what Giuliani's hands are doing as you are not impartial when it comes to anything that is conservative-related.


Setting aside the fact that I aim to be as impartial as possible, only providing facts (not "assumptions" masquerading as facts as some do) where possible, and clearly specifying where something I state is an opinion, is it that hard for you to actually view the footage yourself?


Just because facts don't support what you want to believe (or the assumptions you are pushing as being "factual") doesn't make them "conservative". Similarly, attacking a person's impartiality, while providing no evidence to demonstrate falsity in statements they have made, indicates an excessive level of partisanship on your part, rather than any evidence of partisanship on theirs.


errr my comments are about the footage?


So, saying:
cyberdad wrote:
you are not impartial when it comes to anything that is conservative-related.

is not meant to be seen by a reader as implying falsity\misrepresentation\lies on my part? (I will note that this is not the first time you have insinuated\accused me of lying, without providing evidence to support the claim.)

Can you provide any evidence to support an assertion of impartiality on my behalf, as opposed to my simple presentation of facts which disprove\disagree with your assuptions\assertions?



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

25 Oct 2020, 1:54 am

Brictoria wrote:
Can you provide any evidence to support an assertion of impartiality on my behalf, as opposed to my simple presentation of facts which disprove\disagree with your assuptions\assertions?


Just a pattern I notice Bric. I'm not diminishing your view just wanted a second opinion.



cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

25 Oct 2020, 2:03 am

Giuliani hasn't been having a great time recently
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -page.html

Sorry for those of you think he's special because he is Trump's lawyer but he comes across as unrefined at best.



Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

25 Oct 2020, 2:12 am

cyberdad wrote:
Sorry for those of you think he's special because he is Trump's lawyer but he comes across as unrefined at best.


So that's what this is really all about.

> Exits thread



Last edited by Tempus Fugit on 25 Oct 2020, 2:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,036

25 Oct 2020, 2:25 am

Ok I suppose I am going off topic...Borat got Giuliani haha....it's funny



Brictoria
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2013
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

25 Oct 2020, 5:24 am

cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Can you provide any evidence to support an assertion of impartiality on my behalf, as opposed to my simple presentation of facts which disprove\disagree with your assuptions\assertions?


Just a pattern I notice Bric. I'm not diminishing your view just wanted a second opinion.


What pattern? A pattern of presenting inconvenient facts which disprove\disagree with your assuptions\assertions? That doesn't imply partisanship on my part: Unless you believe that facts\evidence have some innate partiality of their own and are not neutral.

It may be a surprise to you, but there are people who value their integrity and impartiality and do not appreciate it being questioned, particularly when their accuser repeatedly fails to provide any evidence to substantiate their attacks.



Brictoria
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2013
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,998
Location: Melbourne, Australia

25 Oct 2020, 5:25 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sorry for those of you think he's special because he is Trump's lawyer but he comes across as unrefined at best.


So that's what this is really all about.


Yes...Partisan attack, then attacking the integrity of anyone trying to provide accurate details which disprove initial claims.

Tempus Fugit wrote:
> Exits thread


Sounds like a good idea.



Tempus Fugit
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Oct 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,545

25 Oct 2020, 5:49 am

Brictoria wrote:
It may be a surprise to you, but there are people who value their integrity and impartiality and do not appreciate it being questioned, particularly when their accuser repeatedly fails to provide any evidence to substantiate their attacks.


Repeatedly usually adds up to... well you know.



Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 26,635
Location: Australia

25 Oct 2020, 5:57 am

cyberdad wrote:

There's still the weirdness of him asking the young woman for her address and phone number? and why he was "
"handsy" with her (including touching her lower back) which I have watched a couple of times still looks borderline weird.

But he's Trump's lawyer so I guess it goes with territory.


Is it weird that a divorce older man with celebrity, finds a beautiful 24 year old attractive?
How ageist are you. :scratch: :mrgreen:

If you watch the last video, the 24 year old was "handsy" with him first, by putting her hand on his knee.
It almost looks like she was setting him up. :mrgreen:

She then invites him into the bedroom, for no apparent reason I can see, so far.
It almost looks like she is setting him up. :mrgreen:

It "almost" looks like you are being partisan when you say: "But he's Trump's lawyer so I guess it goes with territory." :mrgreen:

May I suggest objectivity, rather than partisanship? :wink:



Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 26,635
Location: Australia

25 Oct 2020, 6:02 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
It may be a surprise to you, but there are people who value their integrity and impartiality and do not appreciate it being questioned, particularly when their accuser repeatedly fails to provide any evidence to substantiate their attacks.


Repeatedly usually adds up to... well you know.


Sexual addiction? :scratch:



Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 26,635
Location: Australia

25 Oct 2020, 6:04 am

Brictoria wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
> Exits thread


Sounds like a good idea.


Awww.
I was having so much fun. :(