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I was just trying to get your perspective. You have to understand that this video was produced by a right wing news organization and is most likely intended to discredit Aboriginal activists. Although I am not familiar with the situation in Australia, to me as a resident of another multi racial country the propaganda approach is very familiar. Its strength lies in its outward appearance of reasonableness and plausibility. Contrast with how the slogan "all lines matter" is used in North America and you can get the point.

I feel, too, like the video is aimed at just pushing a point. I was refering to what the aboriginal ladies said, not to the comments of the video maker.
Like, he used the ladies worrying about crime as an argument against releasing aboriginals from jail - which I see completely differently. From a perspective of a troubled society - even if not by race problems, "race" as understood in Anglophone countries is not a main line of division here - "youth crime" being a problem is not about feeling threatned by bandits who should be in jail. It's about seeing your sons turning to crime and ending up in jail.
So, you won't help them by keeping their relatives locked. You need to put a lot of work into building trust and showing better options to "become someone" than joining a gang.

The point I was trying to make though was that the intent of this video is to promote racist views even though to many folks this may not be apparent at first glance. Given that premise, I am arguing that presenting this sort of material as a conversation starter should be discouraged unless the person presenting it is forthcoming as to the intent of the people who created the content.

I very much don't want to witch-hunt covert agendas of any kind. Blatant hate is certainly forbidden. Unacknowledged prejudice is much better openly discussed and likely exposed than shunned and silenced - especially given cultural diversity of an international forum.

The longer videos focused on domestic violence.
There seems to be a culture of "Don't tell", according to the women speakers.

Of course.
What else kind of a culture would you expect to develop under constant discrimination from foreign authorities?
My culture is just like that. Building trust between society and authortities is a bumpy road here, even without ethnic difference between them.

And what about the other videos that were supportive of the idea of greater cultural issues?
You seem to conveniently focus on the first one but refuse to acknowledge the others which support it.

You needed more information and I gave it to you.
After all, you were implicitly accusing me of being racist.
Clearly, I am simply presenting the views of the aboriginal women in the videos and don't deserve your insults.
An apology is too much to ask for, so I won't bother.

Have I ever suggested that I am dismissive of the history of why the situation is the way it is?
It doesn't change the reality of why there are so many incarcerated now, and based on the aboriginal women, not me, it is due to domestic violence, predominantly.

I think it contemptible that I am called a racist, by MaxE, when it is the aboriginal women who are responsible for the message.
"Killing the messenger" may satisfy sanctimonious cravings but it doesn't change things.

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Please, do not descend into personal accusations.

I was being called a racist.

Please refer to this post. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=393499&start=32#p8688250

That's MaxE's interpretation of the opening post.
In that form (not personal), he's free to express it and defend his point of view.

This is what he said:

A promoter of racism is a racist, which is offensive and personal and this insult was directed at the person who started the thread, which was me.



It was only my tolerance which stopped me from reporting his post, initially.

MaxE stays on the safe side by never refering to you, only to your posts / videos you share.

If I may though, I suspect Pepe of occasionally dissembling his real motives for some things he posts for reasons I can only speculate about.

EDIT: this is arguably a bad thing to do on a forum intended as a safe space for people on the autism spectrum, not assuming you are actually doing that.

Also, I am American, which I fully understand won't get me any sympathy, however please understand that given recent events, anything that looks like racism can be triggering for Americans.

Each of us have their cultural background.
My own "racism" threshold happens to be quite high because my culture largely lacks the very concept of race - visible traits suggesting one's ancestry being of particular social value - with a tradition of defining one's ethnicity mainly by their first language instead.
And I don't say by this that Poles don't hate or don't have dangerous prejudice - just typical prejudice here goes across completely different lines.
This makes me not really sensitive to racial undertones, as I approach these stories from a different angle, possibly visible in my posts in this thread.

I do welcome your opinions, including your racism alarm. We can't have real cultural exchange or understanding without expressing such concerns.