Kraichgauer
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28 Jan 2021, 5:06 am
28 Jan 2021, 5:52 am
Sylkat wrote:
No matter how many people want immediate peace and quiet and forgiveness and ‘One Big Happy Family‘ for America, there MUST be investigations and arrests and trials.
The events that we know of and the many that are going to be discovered need to be exposed and dealt with legally, publicly, and done so by law enforcement and our court system.
You do not heal a country by covering up and ignoring the wrongdoings of the past.
The events that we know of and the many that are going to be discovered need to be exposed and dealt with legally, publicly, and done so by law enforcement and our court system.
You do not heal a country by covering up and ignoring the wrongdoings of the past.
What you have expressed is due process, not hate-filled revenge some are advocating.
Not that long ago, some wanted a Stalin type purge amongst the American ranks.
Insanity!
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28 Jan 2021, 5:54 am
Fnord wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
I think that we are agreeing.
You do not accomplish peace and quiet and superficial contentment by covering up and denying crimes and wrongdoings of the past.
That is what the former Confederacy and Segregation did.
Their past is STILL being literally dig up.
The past will never be buried until people first let it die.You do not accomplish peace and quiet and superficial contentment by covering up and denying crimes and wrongdoings of the past.
That is what the former Confederacy and Segregation did.
Their past is STILL being literally dig up.
Let the hate die.
Make America sane again.
28 Jan 2021, 6:27 am
28 Jan 2021, 6:29 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
This thread stinks like republican and conservative media talking points.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely no argument from me.
Pr Joe Biden has a different position.
28 Jan 2021, 6:30 am
28 Jan 2021, 6:35 am
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28 Jan 2021, 6:38 am
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
This thread stinks like republican and conservative media talking points.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Quote:
Now, let's give each other a chance.
It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature...
To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.
They are not our enemies. They are Amerikans. They are Amerikans." Pr Joe Biden.
It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature...
To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.
They are not our enemies. They are Amerikans. They are Amerikans." Pr Joe Biden.
Joe Biden urges unity in first speech as president-elect: ‘Time to heal in America’
He meant political opponents, like Mitt Romney, not seditious members of government or domestic terrorist insurrectionists. Those people are enemies of the United States Government as well as the constitution of the United States of America, which Biden has sworn to defend against enemies both foreign and domestic.
It is beyond me why you think a violent mob trying to overthrow the US government, that killed 5 people, should be greeted with open arms and sung Kumbaya to. Wtf?
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goldfish21 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
This thread stinks like republican and conservative media talking points.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Quote:
Now, let's give each other a chance.
It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature...
To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.
They are not our enemies. They are Amerikans. They are Amerikans." Pr Joe Biden.
It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature...
To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies.
They are not our enemies. They are Amerikans. They are Amerikans." Pr Joe Biden.
Joe Biden urges unity in first speech as president-elect: ‘Time to heal in America’
He meant political opponents, like Mitt Romney, not seditious members of government or domestic terrorist insurrectionists. Those people are enemies of the United States Government as well as the constitution of the United States of America, which Biden has sworn to defend against enemies both foreign and domestic.
It is beyond me why you think a violent mob trying to overthrow the US government, that killed 5 people, should be greeted with open arms and sung Kumbaya to. Wtf?
Quote:
"For all those who voted for Donald Trump, I understand the disappointment tonight.
I've lost a couple of times myself, but now, let's give each other a chance." Pr Joe Biden
I've lost a couple of times myself, but now, let's give each other a chance." Pr Joe Biden
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28 Jan 2021, 12:08 pm
How TF do you interpret that to mean that violent insurrectionists should be forgiven for their crimes and Americans who respect their country’s constitution and system of government should unite with them? 
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28 Jan 2021, 1:15 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
This thread stinks like republican and conservative media talking points.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely barbaric behaviour from the political right and their most fervent supporters.. and then a call for healing instead of them facing the consequences of their actions.
F that. There should be no unity & cooperation with seditious lawmakers and their insurrectionist supporters. Investigate, charge, prosecute & convict them all one by one. Wield political power to shape a progressive path forward for America. Unite behind common goals of progress & productivity, shifting to a cleaner greener economy, a higher standard of living, education, and healthcare. But do not give in to bad apples and let them get off Scott free with the crap they just pulled. Punish them to set the precedent that this garbage is completely unacceptable and will never be a part of what it is to be American. Unite on that.
Absolutely no argument from me.
Pr Joe Biden has a different position.
I don't think Joe Biden's position is that those involved with the insurrection should face no consequences.
28 Jan 2021, 3:17 pm
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28 Jan 2021, 3:23 pm
Sylkat wrote:
Absolutely.
Make peace where possible, communicate, move forward, but crimes must be exposed, trials must be held, certain people belong in jail.
And that insurrection/riot/demonstration did not result in 5 deaths.
There is another.
Another cop who was on duty during that incident has committed suicide.
I am beginning to believe that much more was going on behind the scenes than we could have imagined at the time.
Make peace where possible, communicate, move forward, but crimes must be exposed, trials must be held, certain people belong in jail.
And that insurrection/riot/demonstration did not result in 5 deaths.
There is another.
Another cop who was on duty during that incident has committed suicide.
I am beginning to believe that much more was going on behind the scenes than we could have imagined at the time.
And at much higher decision making law enforcement management levels than the boots on the ground. Which is why international security experts from Paris are on the record basically saying “Omfg, the cops didn’t do the textbook things they were supposed to do to protect the people and building. This was planned and they were involved.”
A whole lot of cops/their bosses, and possibly national guard officials, belong in jail over this.
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