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18 Mar 2021, 3:51 am

American cities tend to have "message parlors" staffed by Asian women that cater to local males (Whites, Blacks, whatever). They dont cater to local Asian men per se. They get their supply from Asia, and they get their demand locally from every local race.

If we go by what he has told the cops: he killed his victims because they were sex workers. Not because they were Asian. Did so because he blamed THEM for his addiction... to using THEM for sex. Kinda like if a fat guy went into the HQ of the Hostess Twinky company and shot up the place the way they shot up Charlie Hebdo to punish the company for making him obese.

So maybe its not part of the current trend of violence against Asians. That the victims were Asians was just a coincidence.

But more about this guy, and his motives, may come to light.

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18 Mar 2021, 4:01 am

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If we go by what he has told the cops: he killed his victims because they were sex workers. Not because they were Asian. Did so because he blamed THEM for his addiction... to using THEM for sex. Kinda like if a fat guy went into the HQ of the Hostess Twinky company and shot up the place the way they shot up Charlie Hebdo to punish the company for making him obese.

I find this comparison quite accurate.

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18 Mar 2021, 4:26 am

So it may not be racially motivated after all. Oh, well, no biggie, then...

Instead, a young MuslimChristian man goes on a killing spree after undergoing religious radicalization at a local MosqueSouthern Baptist Church.

But surely, US law enforcement is already closely monitoring such hotbeds of religious extremism, right?

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18 Mar 2021, 4:33 am

Blaming women for not giving him sex sounds like incel-like entitlement to me. Not literally incel, no evidence he was not having sex or that he worshiped Elliot Rodgers.

He decided and acted upon the belief that the consequence for not solving his problem is death. Morally it does not matter if his motivation was racism, incel, fundamentalism, or some combination.

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18 Mar 2021, 5:55 am

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From my perspective, this behavior is more comparable to e.g. Charlie Hebdo related killings: a religious fanatic targets people who "offend" what he finds "sacred".
Only the Charlie Hebdo pictures were at least really, intentionally offensive - but we still find killing people over this acts of horrible terrorism. Massage parlors are not intended to offend anyone, they're just businesses.

I don't think he was offended by massage parlours in the same way islamic extremists were offended by a lame cartoon.

My guess (and I admit I don't know the full story) is that he must have been spending all his savings on these girls (I have known men who threw thousands of their lifesavings on prostitutes) and in his warped mind he blamed them for his predicament.

Men who seek prostitutes aren't offended or repulsed by them. I would say the opposite.

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18 Mar 2021, 5:57 am

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This also makes sense.

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18 Mar 2021, 5:58 am

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Except the young christian man wasn't spending thousands of dollars for muslims to massage him.

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18 Mar 2021, 6:12 am

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You neglect the religious part of it, the "sinful" nature of "temptations" he wanted to get rid of.

I don't know, maybe it's too exotic for you to understand these areas but I'm pretty familiar with them. Of course no one from my environment comitted mass murder - but the crazy-making tension between nature and super-restrictive moral codes is something I have both seen closeup and experienced.

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18 Mar 2021, 6:27 am

magz wrote:

I don't know, maybe it's too exotic for you to understand these areas but I'm pretty familiar with them. Of course no one from my environment comitted mass murder - but the crazy-making tension between nature and super-restrictive moral codes is something I have both seen closeup and experienced.

Yes I understand there may also be a religious element to this man's actions as his religious beliefs could have been in conflict with his lust.

I know of heard of christian ministers who seek illicit relationships of a sexual nature and then flagellate themselves till they bleed in front of the virgin mary.

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18 Mar 2021, 8:37 am

magz wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

magz wrote:

Are you saying that religious faiths make people sex addicts?

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18 Mar 2021, 8:42 am

There is a lot of repressed sexuality in the strictest religions. Evidence being the preponderance of Catholic priests engaged in paedophilia, and protestant evangelists engaged in adultery.

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18 Mar 2021, 8:47 am

It's a very cruel world.

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18 Mar 2021, 8:47 am

Daddy63 wrote:

Are you saying that religious faiths make people sex addicts?

If a non-religious ideology attempted to drastically restrict human sexuality, the result would have been the same.
It's not the "religion" part being the problem here.

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18 Mar 2021, 8:49 am

Fnord wrote:

There is a lot of repressed sexuality in the strictest religions. Evidence being the preponderance of Catholic priests engaged in paedophilia, and protestant evangelists engaged in adultery.

Surely that cannot be!

Oh, wait... it can...

Perry and Whitehead (2020) wrote:

Recent studies have found that state-level religious and political conservatism is positively associated with various aggregate indicators of interest in pornography. Such studies have been limited, however, in that they either did not include data measuring actual consumption patterns and/or did not include data on individuals (risking the ecological fallacy). This study overcomes both limitations by incorporating state-level data with individual-level data and a measure of pornography consumption from a large nationally representative survey. Hierarchical linear regression analyses show that, in the main, state-level religious and political characteristics do not predict individual-level pornography consumption, and individual-level religiosity and political conservatism predict less recent pornography consumption. However, interactions between individual-level evangelical identity and state-level political conservatism indicate that evangelicals who live in more politically conservative states report the highest rates of pornography consumption. These findings thus provide more nuanced support for previous research linking religious and political conservatism with greater pornography consumption.

Source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 3120908472

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18 Mar 2021, 9:07 am

Yes, it certainly can.

And stop calling me "Shirley".

:wink: You knew that joke was coming, right?

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18 Mar 2021, 9:31 am

Fnord wrote:

There is a lot of repressed sexuality in the strictest religions. Evidence being the preponderance of Catholic priests engaged in paedophilia, and protestant evangelists engaged in adultery.

Are people of specific religious faiths truly more inclined to be pedophiles and adulterers? Or is it more made up bigoted nonsense fabricated to smear people of specific religious beliefs?

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