4 Catholic Churches burned down (so far!) in BC
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Christian's aren't The Church. It's not Fnord's fault The Church is managed by a bunch of genocidal paedophiles.
I've never advocated killing anyone.
I'm simply not sad to see symbols of systemic abuse go up in smoke.
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/\People die from arson, read the report by firehouse I posted .Revenge arson has a high risk of loss of life.Why don’t you go to a fire station and ask the people that work and risk their lives daily what they think of arson?
I didn’t say you blamed any of the posters for the action of the church ,but you did mention fakery and fake do gooders.I don’t believe all Christians are like that.
Again, what services did those churches offer their community NOW?Services that are now gone.
Not all Catholic priests are pedophiles and the ones that committed those acts of genocide are long since dead.
Your words.Keep going.Sounds like egging it on to me.
“Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.”
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There's little difference between what the Spanish did in South and Central America hundreds of years ago, and the more recent shocking stuff that has come to light in Canada. Genocide or abuse of power are NEVER justifiable, but as Misslizard mentioned earlier on, two wrongs don't make a right. TBH I think the current Pope and the Vatican should make a public apology for all that happened, and offer restitution. The Vatican has vast wealth and should use it to assist the survivors of these atrocities in the RCC schools.
Some use religion to commit terrible evils and always have done so, while others have used their faith to do good in their communities.
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Tribal leaders have spoken out against the burnings.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpo ... 54eb3/amp/
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I didn’t say you blamed any of the posters for the action of the church ,but you did mention fakery and fake do gooders.I don’t believe all Christians are like that.
Again, what services did those churches offer their community NOW?Services that are now gone.
Not all Catholic priests are pedophiles and the ones that committed those acts of genocide are long since dead.
Your words.Keep going.Sounds like egging it on to me.
“Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.”
Perhaps they should do organized planned controlled burns much like farmers do with slash piles or Indigenous people have done for centuries to manage vast swaths of land vs. allow conditions to reach the point where fires rage and spread for hundreds of kilometres? Fire can certainly be used safely to manage crops, forests, land, and also cleanse the Earth from the influence of horrible people.
Really? They're all long since dead, eh? Once again, I'll remind you, that the last residential school in Canada didn't close until 1996. Many of these priests and nuns are still alive and walking free. They should be hunted and jailed like Nazi war criminals, IMO.
Those are my words and I stand by them. A false facade for a criminal organization that fleeces poor people of their wealth and has committed acts of unspeakable horror for hundreds of years. If Jesus were alive today I think he'd think Some Christians are a good lot, but the Church is an abomination.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpo ... 54eb3/amp/
There's ~never a 100% consensus between people nor their governments whichever form that takes.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/nationalpo ... 54eb3/amp/
There's ~never a 100% consensus between people nor their governments whichever form that takes.
Your not a tribal leader and neither am I.Their words hold more weight than yours.
As for the mass graves, that’s the priests I was talking about.They must be really really old by now.As in dead.
Didn’t you go to a christening for one of your relatives? If you feel so strongly about the church why would you go?Sort of hypocritical.Would your family like it if THEIR church burned?
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I didn’t say you blamed any of the posters for the action of the church ,but you did mention fakery and fake do gooders.I don’t believe all Christians are like that.
Again, what services did those churches offer their community NOW?Services that are now gone.
Not all Catholic priests are pedophiles and the ones that committed those acts of genocide are long since dead.
Your words.Keep going.Sounds like egging it on to me.
“Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.”
Perhaps they should do organized planned controlled burns much like farmers do with slash piles or Indigenous people have done for centuries to manage vast swaths of land vs. allow conditions to reach the point where fires rage and spread for hundreds of kilometres? Fire can certainly be used safely to manage crops, forests, land, and also cleanse the Earth from the influence of horrible people.
Really? They're all long since dead, eh? Once again, I'll remind you, that the last residential school in Canada didn't close until 1996. Many of these priests and nuns are still alive and walking free. They should be hunted and jailed like Nazi war criminals, IMO.
Those are my words and I stand by them. A false facade for a criminal organization that fleeces poor people of their wealth and has committed acts of unspeakable horror for hundreds of years. If Jesus were alive today I think he'd think Some Christians are a good lot, but the Church is an abomination.
Do you have any idea of the air pollution controlled burns cause? Ever been near one?I have, forest service does it all the time all around me and there are usually air quality alerts when it happens.
So ALL the nuns and priests are guilty?
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I didn’t say you blamed any of the posters for the action of the church ,but you did mention fakery and fake do gooders.I don’t believe all Christians are like that.
Again, what services did those churches offer their community NOW?Services that are now gone.
Not all Catholic priests are pedophiles and the ones that committed those acts of genocide are long since dead.
Your words.Keep going.Sounds like egging it on to me.
“Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.”
Perhaps they should do organized planned controlled burns much like farmers do with slash piles or Indigenous people have done for centuries to manage vast swaths of land vs. allow conditions to reach the point where fires rage and spread for hundreds of kilometres? Fire can certainly be used safely to manage crops, forests, land, and also cleanse the Earth from the influence of horrible people.
Really? They're all long since dead, eh? Once again, I'll remind you, that the last residential school in Canada didn't close until 1996. Many of these priests and nuns are still alive and walking free. They should be hunted and jailed like Nazi war criminals, IMO.
Those are my words and I stand by them. A false facade for a criminal organization that fleeces poor people of their wealth and has committed acts of unspeakable horror for hundreds of years. If Jesus were alive today I think he'd think Some Christians are a good lot, but the Church is an abomination.
Do you have any idea of the air pollution controlled burns cause? Ever been near one?I have, forest service does it all the time all around me and there are usually air quality alerts when it happens.
Better to be small amounts at a time than massive amounts all at once due to colonial governments thinking they know how to manage forests better than the Indigenous peoples that have been managing them on their lands for thousands of years.
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I didn’t say you blamed any of the posters for the action of the church ,but you did mention fakery and fake do gooders.I don’t believe all Christians are like that.
Again, what services did those churches offer their community NOW?Services that are now gone.
Not all Catholic priests are pedophiles and the ones that committed those acts of genocide are long since dead.
Your words.Keep going.Sounds like egging it on to me.
“Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.”
Perhaps they should do organized planned controlled burns much like farmers do with slash piles or Indigenous people have done for centuries to manage vast swaths of land vs. allow conditions to reach the point where fires rage and spread for hundreds of kilometres? Fire can certainly be used safely to manage crops, forests, land, and also cleanse the Earth from the influence of horrible people.
Really? They're all long since dead, eh? Once again, I'll remind you, that the last residential school in Canada didn't close until 1996. Many of these priests and nuns are still alive and walking free. They should be hunted and jailed like Nazi war criminals, IMO.
Those are my words and I stand by them. A false facade for a criminal organization that fleeces poor people of their wealth and has committed acts of unspeakable horror for hundreds of years. If Jesus were alive today I think he'd think Some Christians are a good lot, but the Church is an abomination.
Do you have any idea of the air pollution controlled burns cause? Ever been near one?I have, forest service does it all the time all around me and there are usually air quality alerts when it happens.
Better to be small amounts at a time than massive amounts all at once due to colonial governments thinking they know how to manage forests better than the Indigenous peoples that have been managing them on their lands for thousands of years.
Ask the people in that town that burned down how they feel about burning.
Not a good idea now to burn anything with climate change going on.
It can be used to prevent underbrush from building up in places like California where they suppressed natural fires and caused a build up off dead growth and some trees do need fire for the seeds to germinate.Depends on the ecosystem.
They don’t set thousands of acres on fire here when they burn, usually around 200-300 acres or less.
Old timers here burned the fields and woods off.Now you better have the fire department on hand in case it jumps to someone else’s property and burns their house down.
It is bad for air quality.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25947317/
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Interesting: Hopefully this wasn't what initiated (or contributed to) the recent fires...
The remains were found when remedial work was being performed in the area to replace the fence at the cemetery last year.
Sophie Pierre, former chief of the St Mary’s Indian Band and a survivor of the school itself, told Global News that while the news of the unmarked graves had a painful impact on her and surrounding communities, they had always known the graves were there.
“There’s no discovery, we knew it was there, it’s a graveyard,” Pierre said. “The fact there are graves inside a graveyard shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.”
According to Pierre, wooden crosses that originally marked the gravesites had been burned or deteriorated over the years. Using a wooden marker at a gravesite remains a practice that continues to this day in many Indigenous communities across Canada.
Pierre acknowledged uncovering those graves is important work, and sheds light on the traumatic history and reality for Indigenous peoples across Canada.
However, she said the findings at the cemetery near Cranbrook isn’t the same as the other findings at other residential schools throughout the country.
“What happened in these other places is these remains have been found not in graveyards, that’s the big difference,” Pierre said. “It’s horrible.”
Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/7996606/cranbrook-residential-school-graves-chief/
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^that, clear across the country x approximately 4,500-5,000ish murdered children in residential schools is exactly what contributed to some people deciding to cleanse their communities of various churches.
Long time coming, IMO. A bit surprising things like this haven’t been done much at all in Canada - you know, considering the state & church cosponsored genocide and all.
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It's hard for me to get my head around the fact that these crimes against humanity happened in a country not usually associated with racism and that sort of thing. it just shows that no country has the right to act holier than thou toward another. One would have hoped that even with church and state separation, the government should have been able to have some control over what was going on, and put a stop to it or closed them down. Will the Vatican deny this happened or try to keep it hidden under lace veils?
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Could the culprit responsible for the arson be a former victim?
Molesting, yes, but also their participation in running residential schools on behalf of the canadian/provincial governments where they tortured and murdered Indigenous children.
Several more churches have been burned down, btw. Good. Keep going. They're an awful symbol of fake faith & fake do-gooders.
There is global outrage at the conduct of the catholic church in virtually every country it set up shop
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... uiry-finds
This trend isn't just in Canada, its also in the UK and Australia. The priests involved didn't discriminate whom they abused, The perp might be indigenous but it wouldn't be terribly shocking if the perp was a non-indigenous survivor of earlier abuse,
While most of the schools were Catholic there was also Church of Canada, Presbyterian, and Anglican.All should pay reparations.
Go after their coffers, that will hurt them more than torching buildings.
Those structures should be turned into memorials for the victims like the death camps in Germany.
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/10121009 ... group-says
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