Diocese says school that flew BLM, Pride flags not Catholic

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Then I think public displays of support for political parties - a phenomenon widespread here, done even by some bishops themselves - are a counter-example showing a problematic double standard within the Catholic church.

This sort of thing reminds me of a skit done over 25 years ago:

If you're going to equate minority symbols to political symbols (which is what they really are) then is a matter of preference really a double standard? You said the political endorsements are conservative. Are BLM and Gay Pride conservative?

I do find political conservatives claiming the whole Catholic church a problem.
That's against the very idea of being "Catholic" - "Universal".

I'm not sure what you're talking about. "Catholic-Universal" isn't a term I'm familiar with. I don't think it's used in the west.

No one studies Greek these days...

In Polish, the term "Kościół Powszechny" - "Universal Church" - is in use as a synonym to Catholic church, especially when the accent is on the community not the institution. That may be why I'm aware of the original meaning of the word καθολικός.
Or maybe I'm just a geek.

Ah looks like you're referring to the Latin/Roman/Western church and the Greek/Orthodox/Eastern church being universally Catholic. Here "Catholic" has come to mean Roman Catholic exclusively to most. There are far more Roman Catholics in North and South American than Eastern Orthodox Catholics. The latter is almost always specified as "Orthodox" rather than "Catholic" here to avoid confusion.

No, I'm refering to the fact that "catholic" is a word of Greek origin, meaning "universal".

The aim of Roman Catholicism is one church crossing national and cultural borders.
While members can subscribe to partizan politics, making it the church policy is against this aim.

That sums it up. BLM and Gay Pride are not the political aim of the RCC. It doesn't want to get lumped in with those entities. And it shouldn't be expected to.

But why does it agree to be lumped with right-wing political parties?

Probably because the right wing is anti-abortion among other stances that are important to the RCC.

The argument against abortion it is that a fetus is a human being - how would it justify current law situation in Poland where even a fetus that has no chance to survive after birth is illegal to abort?
Shouldn't it be equivalent to discontinuing life-sustaining care or even stopping futile therapy?

Care for those marginalized is the very content of the Gospel. Why voices pointing it out are silenced on institutional level?

What I have against Catholic Church in this regard, is:

On one hand, they claim universality, universal moral teachings, etc.
On the other hand, they marginalize, estrange and even spew hate on* large parts of the societes.

I read the Gospel and I find it a Phariseic attitude.

I don't claim the whole Catholic Church is guilty of it - but whenever such attitude becomes prominent, I believe it deserves all the criticism.


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*Abp Jędraszewski and his infamous "rainbow disease" is the most colorful example near me.

You'll have to take that up with them. I just gave you the reasons why the RCC is right wing.

The Gospel is, for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life John 3:16. Now in Matthew 25:31-46, Jesus tells us that whenever we help someone in need of food, water, clothing and shelter, and visit people in hospitals and in prison, it's the same as if we did so for him. I don't see what that has to do with being politically aligned with BLM and LGBTQQIP2SAA+

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You don't like them not being in support of LGBTQQIP2SAA+. You read the Gospel, so can you tell me where in the Gospel it says they should be?

Because BLM is about people being abused for coming from the wrong demographics and LGBTQ pride is about people forced to pretend to be something they're not for their entire lives.
In other words - both movements are founded on supporting the suffering.

‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

One can of course discuss how well the movements really materialize their claimed goals - but this can be as well asked e.g. to "pro-lifers" who lose all their interest once the baby is born.
Most political movements have some high ideals and not as high reality. That does not make the ideals wrong.