US Justice system appears completely incompetent

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05 May 2023, 3:37 pm

Thank you!

I can't stand that word!

It's sexist but also implies women shouldn't stand up for themselves without being called irrational.

I'm pretty sure it's racist too.

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05 May 2023, 11:35 pm

When you enter a protest and the area is blocked off and you horn at people you would expect them to respond.

Again a normal reasonable person would leave the area and find another route.

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05 May 2023, 11:58 pm

The prosecutor needs to prove that a person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If It looks like it was deliberate, smells like it was deliberate it probably was deliberate. Probably is not beyond reasonable doubt. The Manhattan DA is no MAGA, he is Alvin Bragg, you might have heard of him, he is the guy who indicted Trump.

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06 May 2023, 12:12 am

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I think Pepe and I agree that the testimony of a forensic psychologist would have helped understand Castillo's intent. As with Rittenhouse case I don't buy the "panic" excuse.

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06 May 2023, 2:30 am

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In what must be one of the worst miscarriages of justice in recent history. A 53 year old white woman who drove into a group of BLM protestors in her BMW injuring 6 people who needed hospitalisation has not had to serve one day of jail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ector.html

She has managed to avoid attempted murder and a charge of a hate crime by claiming she was in fear for her and her adult daughter when protesters banged on her car.

However injured protestors claim if you watch the video she drove into her first victim before anyone touched her vehicle. The judge must have taking magic mushrooms and experienced hallucinations when he gave her 5hrs of community service.

Anyone remember the Charlottesville riots, a driver did exactly the same thing as Castillo driving into a crowd of peaceful protesters and was given life without parole because one of his victims died.

I don't get the difference, the US justice system is a hopeless joke

I agree mostly, but leave magic mushrooms out of it...they don't cause that type of hallucination they just make things look a bit different visually and like the walls are breathing or the trees if you are outside. But they don't make life-like hallucinations.

U.S justice system is just straight up insane.

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06 May 2023, 4:33 am

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And this is the way the justice system should be imo. Yes some people get away with stuff but on the whole it's a fair system in my opinion.

And it wasn't proved without a reasonable doubt she took a plea bargain which has nothing to do with being guilty or not and is a big part of the justice system I don't like.

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06 May 2023, 6:34 am

It also doesn't absolve her of her actions.

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06 May 2023, 7:01 am

cyberdad wrote:

It also doesn't absolve her of her actions.

She has been absolved to the letter of the law. You have an issue with the US justice system, I get that. I would have liked to view the whole court case, so I can be more informed, I only have videos to base my opinion on, and I certainly wouldn't use a rag like The Daily Mail for my facts. We have a difference of opinion on the matter, life goes on.

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06 May 2023, 8:23 am

cyberdad wrote:

It also doesn't absolve her of her actions.

I'm not following your logic here.

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06 May 2023, 8:31 am

I tend to have a different interpretation of the woman's behavior. It doesn't make me or others who have posted in this thread racist.

I'm glad that no one was killed.

Saying that the US justice system is a "hopeless joke" is rather extreme. I certainly know, even from personal experience, that justice is not always attained, but it's not a "joke" and it's not "completely incompetent," either.

I wonder about posters who constantly complain about American institutions or culture, not specific individuals or specific laws. Could they be demonstrating another form of prejudice? :chin:

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06 May 2023, 8:44 am

cyberdad wrote:

I would be very very interested if she drove past barricades or chose to endganger her everyone because she was trying to make a short cut. All of this was never investigated under cross-examination

I couldn't find much information how she ended up behind the protest but did find a petition complaining about accountability, in the petition they question police motives. I can't confirm this, but it is alleged that NYPD were following the protest in a line of cars blocking traffic but appeared to move out of the way for Ms Casillo's car allowing her access to the protest - madness :jester:

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06 May 2023, 9:15 am

!	Cornflake wrote:
	With apologies for the delay. Several off-topic posts have been removed - I hope the thread is now better able to carry on.

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06 May 2023, 9:39 am

Mark Erica Criminal Defense Attorney wrote:

There's an old adage in the criminal justice system that if they offer you low-term state prison that means they've got a weak case, if they offer you probation and no time that means they've got no case.

Ms Casillo was offered probation and no time, which has the translation or implication that she's factually innocent.

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