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20 Dec 2008, 11:16 am

ChukoTheWarlike wrote:
behold liberal secular humanist tolerance

hey guys it cuts both ways - if you don't want religious fundamentalists to b***h about your lifestyle choices, don't b***h about theirs? k thanks.

this entire thread is sickening in that there hasn't been a word of support or understanding, just crap about how they're ignorant, religiously brainwashed, cultish, abusive, based on the fact that they're christians.

they clearly have the money to do this; more power to them. we need more children. we're headed for a global population catastrophe - the human species is dangerously close to breeding below replacement rate, which is ridiculous in a society that at its best can get 80% of it's newborns to survive to adulthood.


What planet are you living on? We are overpopulated, not underpopulated. And we aren't criticizing them for being Christian we are criticizing them for having so many kids that they CAN'T take care of them and have to assign older kids to do the work for them.
And just so we are clear, if you religion is ridiculous and harmful to humanity as a whole, it is deserving of criticism.



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20 Dec 2008, 12:00 pm

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My head is spinning... oh my! I couldn't even imagine having 3 kids, let alone 18! How in the world are they going to afford all of that????


They are not in any debt...(I've watched shows on them) I find that so hard to believe!! ! That stuns me...


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20 Dec 2008, 1:26 pm

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Even if they go against the Bible and don't physically abuse there kids, I could (but won't) debate without end about the mental abuse.


Please spare us that mental abuse. :P


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20 Dec 2008, 3:42 pm

Yeah, why pass judgment or make assumptions about people you've never even met? How do their beliefs or "lifestyle choices" affect you?

I'm just the resident librarian here - providing information from other sites in response to people's queries. :)



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20 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

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Yeah, why pass judgment or make assumptions about people you've never even met? How do their beliefs or "lifestyle choices" affect you?

I'm just the resident librarian here - providing information from other sites in response to people's queries. :)


How does people you've never met commenting on other people you've never met affect you?



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20 Dec 2008, 4:59 pm

drowbot0181 wrote:
release_the_bats wrote:
Yeah, why pass judgment or make assumptions about people you've never even met? How do their beliefs or "lifestyle choices" affect you?

I'm just the resident librarian here - providing information from other sites in response to people's queries. :)


How does people you've never met commenting on other people you've never met affect you?


It simply inspires me to contribute something to the conversation.



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20 Dec 2008, 5:52 pm

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I'm curious as to the Duggar family's religious affiliation. I also hope, for all their sakes, that the TLC Network is going to help them raise all those kids.

For God's sake, man-- get a vasectomy!
TLC has done specials on them. They believe that "God should decide how many children they have" (to paraphrase) They don't believe in birth control, and sadly, every time she gets pregnant or has another baby, the media goes nuts. I don't know why. eventually she's gonna run out of religious names to name them!



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20 Dec 2008, 7:18 pm

The family seems to be very religious. They have to pick a certain partner but the parents don't pick a spouse for their child. They watch very little TV and they do family activities. They even wear certain clothes. The parents mentioned they own a few places they rent out so that's how they also make their money. But they also have to keep them maintained.



Don't believe in birth control? No wonder she has so many kids. It's not like she planned them. They were unexpected because she chose to make love.



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21 Dec 2008, 2:50 pm

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My mother has 23 uncles and aunts.

She has 6 brothers and sisters.

I have a single sister.

Does it really matter?

Peace.


Yes, it does. With every new addition, the quality of life is reduced for all of them. It's like how smaller class-sizes are better for students because they get more individua attention. Having really huge families is not a good idea, unless you can grow your own food, make your own clohes, educate yourselves, provide independant healthcare somehow ...



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21 Dec 2008, 3:07 pm

Damn, that poor mother. She must have stretch marks from here to china!


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21 Dec 2008, 9:15 pm

yeah. 18 preganacies!! ! wow



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22 Dec 2008, 5:59 am

I just hope they aren't on welfare.



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22 Dec 2008, 1:23 pm

ChukoTheWarlike wrote:
this entire thread is sickening in that there hasn't been a word of support or understanding, just crap about how they're ignorant, religiously brainwashed


That's because they are.
They actually believe that this is god's work, if that isn't a case of brainwashing, I don't know what is. One of the girls also fell for it and wants to have kids after kids like her mom.

I can understand it if they just love children that much, the least they could do is be more christ-like and look after the children that are already here, many children need homes.

God should not be given any thanks or praise when a child is born because it is the parents that created it, not god.


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22 Dec 2008, 2:25 pm

Chibi_Neko wrote:
ChukoTheWarlike wrote:
this entire thread is sickening in that there hasn't been a word of support or understanding, just crap about how they're ignorant, religiously brainwashed


That's because they are.
They actually believe that this is god's work, if that isn't a case of brainwashing, I don't know what is. One of the girls also fell for it and wants to have kids after kids like her mom.

I can understand it if they just love children that much, the least they could do is be more christ-like and look after the children that are already here, many children need homes.

God should not be given any thanks or praise when a child is born because it is the parents that created it, not god.


God forgives you for that.


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22 Dec 2008, 2:33 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Chibi_Neko wrote:
ChukoTheWarlike wrote:
this entire thread is sickening in that there hasn't been a word of support or understanding, just crap about how they're ignorant, religiously brainwashed


That's because they are.
They actually believe that this is god's work, if that isn't a case of brainwashing, I don't know what is. One of the girls also fell for it and wants to have kids after kids like her mom.

I can understand it if they just love children that much, the least they could do is be more christ-like and look after the children that are already here, many children need homes.

God should not be given any thanks or praise when a child is born because it is the parents that created it, not god.


God forgives you for that.


And you know this because? And how do you know god is even offended? Such a being would have no right to be offended if the credit (for a baby) was not his. If he wants to claim credit for these 18 children, then let him step forward and do so.
Even if God were real, no person on Earth has any business claiming they are his proxy.



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22 Dec 2008, 2:39 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Chibi_Neko wrote:
ChukoTheWarlike wrote:
this entire thread is sickening in that there hasn't been a word of support or understanding, just crap about how they're ignorant, religiously brainwashed


That's because they are.
They actually believe that this is god's work, if that isn't a case of brainwashing, I don't know what is. One of the girls also fell for it and wants to have kids after kids like her mom.

I can understand it if they just love children that much, the least they could do is be more christ-like and look after the children that are already here, many children need homes.

God should not be given any thanks or praise when a child is born because it is the parents that created it, not god.


God forgives you for that.


I guess you aren't able to consider other people's points of view, when it comes to not being religious or a God worshipper. So I appreciate that God is able to show forgiveness and understanding, where you aren't.