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03 Jun 2020, 9:12 am

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MAGA people hate her simply because she is a woman of color.


How myopic do you have to be to think that's the only reason someone might dislike AOC?


They hate Obama because he‘s black, they hate Hillary because she‘s a woman, and they hate Bernie because he‘s Jewish.

They want a country that‘s white, straight Christians only, where women are barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.


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03 Jun 2020, 9:14 am

Sure, she's quite pretty. It's just a shame that thing that happens when she opens her mouth.

There was a dance?


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03 Jun 2020, 9:17 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
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MAGA people hate her simply because she is a woman of color.


How myopic do you have to be to think that's the only reason someone might dislike AOC?


They hate Obama because he‘s black, they hate Hillary because she‘s a woman, and they hate Bernie because he‘s Jewish.

They want a country that‘s white, straight Christians only, where women are barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.


So, in short; you can only see race and sex, so you extrapolate that that's true of everyone else?


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03 Jun 2020, 9:58 am

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How do you prove he knew death was guaranteed?


Maybe we can let a man's knee and body weight press into his own neck for almost nine minutes when he's handcuffed and face down on cement. He might have a more informed opinion after receiving the treatment himself.

Of course I don't mean that literally and he needs to stand trial, but I can guarantee he wouldn't want the same treatment that he gave to George Floyd. He would be afraid of dying. People would say it's inhumane and cruel.

If he was concerned about Floyd's health and his airway, why didn't he desist and administer CPR or artificial respiration, or put him in the recovery position with space to breathe? He was a police officer on active duty and he was bound by law to administer first aid, as well as to "serve and protect".

Death happens when oxygen can't be delivered to the brain. Crushing a man's trachea and refusing to stop when he says he can't breathe is virtually "guaranteed" to kill a person, especially when you do this on purpose, for no necessary reason, and you know he's in medical distress because it's restricting his breathing, but you continue anyway.

This, coupled with the fact he knew the suspect and had reason for malicious conduct, will be very damning in court.


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03 Jun 2020, 10:12 am

The Republikkkan Party needs to be voted out of existence, dismantled and banned.


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03 Jun 2020, 10:59 am

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where women are barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.


Basically the lifestyle of Cletus, his wife, and their family of 39 children from The Simpsons.

So let's say there's about a million real-life Cletus Spuckler families out there in America today. As soon as each family's 39 children hit the age of 18, they become Trump voters. BOOM! 39 million new votes for Trump.

Meanwhile most families voting for Biden have an average of maybe 2 children.

There you have it. Trump is unstoppable and wins re-election by landslide.



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03 Jun 2020, 11:01 am

Police injured by protesters in Brockton, Massachusetts,also a Dunkin donuts was looted and damaged.

No one knows yet which has traumatized the Brockton police more,the physical injuries or seeing a Dunkin donuts looted and damaged. :lol: :lol:


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03 Jun 2020, 11:38 am

This just showed up in my recommended:



Interesting to watch in the current context.

Tim_Tex wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
MAGA people hate her simply because she is a woman of color.


How myopic do you have to be to think that's the only reason someone might dislike AOC?


They hate Obama because he‘s black, they hate Hillary because she‘s a woman, and they hate Bernie because he‘s Jewish.

They want a country that‘s white, straight Christians only, where women are barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

This if I didn't know better I'd think was a parody post of leftist dogma.

This is propaganda, and you've swallowed it whole. Mental pollution that you should rid yourself of, if you can.

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Sure, she's quite pretty. It's just a shame that thing that happens when she opens her mouth.

There was a dance?

Yeah, then she opens her mouth and puffs up with leftist zeal and her eyes start bugging out of her head. Disgusting.

The dance, I think she was goofing around in her college days or something. She's pretty cute there. She looks like she's having a lot of fun.



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Drake wrote:
How do you prove he knew death was guaranteed?


Maybe we can let a man's knee and body weight press into his own neck for almost nine minutes when he's handcuffed and face down on cement. He might have a more informed opinion after receiving the treatment himself.

Of course I don't mean that literally and he needs to stand trial, but I can guarantee he wouldn't want the same treatment that he gave to George Floyd. He would be afraid of dying. People would say it's inhumane and cruel.

If he was concerned about Floyd's health and his airway, why didn't he desist and administer CPR or artificial respiration, or put him in the recovery position with space to breathe? He was a police officer on active duty and he was bound by law to administer first aid, as well as to "serve and protect".

Death happens when oxygen can't be delivered to the brain. Crushing a man's trachea and refusing to stop when he says he can't breathe is virtually "guaranteed" to kill a person, especially when you do this on purpose, for no necessary reason, and you know he's in medical distress because it's restricting his breathing, but you continue anyway.

This, coupled with the fact he knew the suspect and had reason for malicious conduct, will be very damning in court.

And it's that total lack of any care for the man's life that facilitates the current murder charge. But I would not be confident of getting the 2nd degree to stick, needing that proof he set out to kill him vs simply not caring if he dies. If the knee was across the throat I'd say it's an easy 2nd degree charge, but it's not.

I can't 100% say he set out to kill the man. It's obvious he wanted to do him harm, but did he want to kill him?



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03 Jun 2020, 12:03 pm

The state of New York has a "depraved indifference to human life" statute which carries 25 years to life in prison.Something like that would be useful here.


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03 Jun 2020, 12:08 pm

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The state of New York has a "depraved indifference to human life"

Sorry, couldn't resist :skull:


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03 Jun 2020, 1:30 pm

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The state of New York has a "depraved indifference to human life"

Sorry, couldn't resist :skull:

I think the statute fits the crime well,not a lot of states have the depraved indifference statute,it can come in useful :skull:


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03 Jun 2020, 1:35 pm

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/protester- ... 3u7kEaHQsI


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Kneeling in front of a group of at least a dozen police officers at a greenspace in Charleston, South Carolina, on Sunday, Givionne "Gee" Jordan Jr. made one thing clear to the officers holding baton sticks, he was "not their enemy." Then moments later, two officers handcuffed him and sent him to jail.

In a video circulating on social media, Jordan can be seen and heard pleading with the officers to consider the perspective of the protesters, saying, "We are all people. All of you are my family."

"I love each and every one of you. I cry at night because I feel your pain. ... I feel the pain of black people. I feel the pain of white people. I feel the pain of innocent cops. We're all scared," he cried. "We gotta stop living in fear. I am not your enemy. You are not my enemy."

As he continued to speak, other protesters knelt beside him, placing their hands on Jordan's back and shoulders in solidarity. The cops appeared to continue clutching their batons, even as Jordan said, "I love you and I respect you."

"I want to understand all of you," he said. "I would love to see the best side of everybody here. This is not the best side of everybody here. ... Then you can take the whole perspective of how you do someone, because of their side, because of how you see them in a different light."

"We gotta stop judging people only on our bad days. We all have them to some degree. How are you on your good days?" he pleaded. "Do you want to make a stand? Do you want to make a change? Because if we charge you and you charge us, what is that really doing?"

Then, he was arrested. In a video of the incident, it appears as though the police single out Jordan for the arrest.

In an interview with local newspaper The Post and Courier, Jordan said he wanted the roughly 200 people to kneel in front of the cops to show them that "we are no threat." He was among dozens arrested over the weekend to protest the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

He had spent the morning volunteering, sweeping the streets of downtown Charleston, and helping business owners board up their stores. The area he was helping clean was vandalized by looters the night prior.

"My plan was to get all the people beside me, kneeling behind me, kneeling with me," he told the newspaper. "Showing the cops that we are no threat. We are no threat at all. We just want to make the world better."

According to the Charleston Police Department arrest record, Jordan, 23, was arrested for "disobeying lawful order." He was released from jail the following morning on $465 bond, and has a court date scheduled for June 16.

The Charleston Police Department has not returned CBS News' request for comment.

According to The Post and Courier, Charleston Police Chief Luther Reynolds has defended the arrest, saying that the protest was tense and the crowd had been ordered to break up.

"We specifically asked for them, numerous times, to disperse," he told The Post and Courier. "We said if you don't you will be arrested."

During the protest at Marion Square, police fired what are believed to be non-lethal projectiles at the protesters, according to the newspaper. Jordan said that he was arrested around 5 p.m. The city's curfew didn't start until an hour later.

Reflecting days later about the incident, Jordan told CBS affiliate WCSC-TV that he was at Marion Square to stand up for a promise to make things better and work together.

"This is how we change. This is how we move the needle," he said. "This is how we have a better future not only for ourselves but for our kids and their kids. This is how we do it. We unite as one, because at the end of the day, I got to walk the same trail you walk."


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03 Jun 2020, 1:56 pm

The video: https://twitter.com/sweeeetdee_/status/ ... 3167107072 It really moved me.
I'm just hoping they will learn on their own errors.


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03 Jun 2020, 1:57 pm

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AOC 2024!! !
AOC 2024!! !
AOC 2024!! !

You want to elect the stupidest politician ever? She didn’t even know what a garbage disposal was and what you did with it. She wants to create a giant rail bridge to connect California to Hawaii. Mean I’m smarter then her and no way should I be president.

I’d sooner vote for a cat for president.
Maybe that one from the table meme.
Or my cat. He’s got a bow tie. Looks so professional.
If you just want a woman as president there loads of smart women with degrees in science and what not.


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03 Jun 2020, 2:00 pm

She had to have it explained to her that crossing the border illegally is illegal.


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03 Jun 2020, 2:02 pm

sly279 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
AOC 2024!! !
AOC 2024!! !
AOC 2024!! !

You want to elect the stupidest politician ever? She didn’t even know what a garbage disposal was and what you did with it. She wants to create a giant rail bridge to connect California to Hawaii. Mean I’m smarter then her and no way should I be president.
She's from the South Bronx,people there don't have garbage disposals or even dish washers.But the banning airplanes and building a bridge to Hawaii is pretty stupid I would agree.


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