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13 Feb 2022, 5:45 pm

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13 Feb 2022, 5:57 pm

This is on the news all the time now. Big story. I don't recall Canada ever being so covered here. Before this, news coverage of Canada was practically non -existent. :lol:


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13 Feb 2022, 6:17 pm

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LOLOLOLZZZzzz. Very poignant ! :D


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13 Feb 2022, 6:50 pm

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This is on the news all the time now. Big story. I don't recall Canada ever being so covered here. Before this, news coverage of Canada was practically non -existent. :lol:

It's on the news here a little - the small local protest in Canberra was also covered, I think:
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Unfortunately, there was at least one incident involving a degree of antagonism which occurred involving a local resident, which distracted the media from the overall protest:



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13 Feb 2022, 8:51 pm

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Truckers who are protesting all COVID-19 mandates in Coutts, Alberta were surprised to learn that police sabotaged some of their vehicles.

Three excavator vehicles were parked on private land with permission from the owner.

RCMP had allegedly asked the owners to move the vehicles so they wouldn't be visible from the highway. The owners obliged, and sometime after moving the vehicles found the damage.

Damage reportedly included the cutting of electrical and control cables. And an expandable foam was sprayed inside the vehicle causing additional damage.

RCMP media representatives have confirmed that they were behind the damage.

Source: https://www.rebelnews.com/police_sabotage_heavy_equipment_at_coutts



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14 Feb 2022, 11:13 am

Not really a good idea to bring your kids to a protest.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8603944/otta ... onvoy/amp/


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14 Feb 2022, 7:24 pm

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Some interesting remarks about this:
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Source: https://twitter.com/Menace2Sobriet2/status/1493366001215365124



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14 Feb 2022, 7:28 pm

^^^^Agrees with information outlined by the above Post ^^^^


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14 Feb 2022, 7:29 pm

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Not really a good idea to bring your kids to a protest.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8603944/otta ... onvoy/amp/


Why not?

The protest is peaceful (they even had a couple of jumping castles for the children to play on), with something of a carnival type atmosphere - nothing like some of the protests in the USA in 2020.

Were it to resemble the "mostly peaceful" protests of past years, I'd agree that children shouldn't be there, but this is basically a "sit-in", not an aggressive mob.



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14 Feb 2022, 7:42 pm

Sadly, it's gone beyond even this...
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It is disappointing that instead of trying to work with the protesters to find a mutually acceptable solution, Mr Trudeau felt that he needed to push back against them to show his "power", rather than look "weak" by compromising with them\implementing anything they were asking for.

Now he has backed himself so far into the corner through this attitude that he felt the need to invoke the Emergency Act in responce to a peaceful protest, in order to demonstrate his "power".



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14 Feb 2022, 8:44 pm

Some TV news from some ABC 7 somewhere posted this link to the law's text,

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... age-1.html

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Emergencies Act

R.S.C., 1985, c. 22 (4th Supp.)

An Act to authorize the taking of special temporary measures to ensure safety and security during national emergencies and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof
[1988, c. 29, assented to 21st July, 1988]


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14 Feb 2022, 8:52 pm

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The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act. This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met. 1/3

The Emergencies Act can only be invoked when a situation "seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada" & when the situation "cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada."

Governments regularly deal with difficult situations, and do so using powers granted to them by democratically elected representatives. Emergency legislation should not be normalized. It threatens our democracy and our civil liberties. #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/cancivlib/status/14 ... 9983917057

Full text of emergencies act can be found at https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html, for those interested



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14 Feb 2022, 8:55 pm

Brictoria wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Not really a good idea to bring your kids to a protest.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8603944/otta ... onvoy/amp/


Why not?

The protest is peaceful (they even had a couple of jumping castles for the children to play on), with something of a carnival type atmosphere - nothing like some of the protests in the USA in 2020.

Were it to resemble the "mostly peaceful" protests of past years, I'd agree that children shouldn't be there, but this is basically a "sit-in", not an aggressive mob.

Because there is always a potential idiot in every protest that can cause problems.
Especially if the cops get involved, then it can go wrong really quick.
I wouldn’t have taken my kids, but maybe that’s just me.They are grown now and can decide for themselves.


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14 Feb 2022, 9:09 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Not really a good idea to bring your kids to a protest.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8603944/otta ... onvoy/amp/


Why not?

The protest is peaceful (they even had a couple of jumping castles for the children to play on), with something of a carnival type atmosphere - nothing like some of the protests in the USA in 2020.

Were it to resemble the "mostly peaceful" protests of past years, I'd agree that children shouldn't be there, but this is basically a "sit-in", not an aggressive mob.

Because there is always a potential idiot in every protest that can cause problems.
Especially if the cops get involved, then it can go wrong really quick.
I wouldn’t have taken my kids, but maybe that’s just me.They are grown now and can decide for themselves.


On the other side of that arguement - by having their children there, it helps ensure that their side does not become violent, as they are unlikely to do anything to cause their children to be harmed, and so will do what they can to stop any "potenitial idiot" before they can cause trouble.

It does, however, make it more difficult for the police to use tactics they might have otherwise attempted with the more rowdy style of protest that has been common over the past couple of years, knowing there are children there, which also works in the protestor's favour - The police won't want any pictures\reports of children being harmed by them being published.

Having watched quite a few videos from inside the protest area, it looks like a safe place for children to be, and the ones I have seen in the background of the videos appear to be having fun there.

Just because you wouldn't have taken your kids (setting aside your dislike for the protest, which may be colouring your view) is irrelevant: Those involved in the protest would have a better understanding of the protest, and would only have their children there if they believed\knew there was no risk in doing so.