Breaking: Active Shooter(s) In Mandalay Bay Hotel (NSFW)
I wonder what gambling did to his brain.
He clicked slot machine buttons for 25 years, sometimes months at a time, 10-12 hours a day.
He ordered food and ate at his slot machine.
His brother called it "his job".
There was no thinking, just play out the optimal strategy, like a robot.
The Starbucks employees said he looked like he never slept.
There was no money making either, just grinding out to break even with comps.
The sheriff said:
- - that he (the sheriff) thought Paddock had help (as in, help obtaining weapons, NOT help in shooting).
- - that he feels that Paddock TRULY thought that he'd survive and escape (might be why he didn't leave a note - IF he didn't).
- - that there seemed to be evidence that Paddock spent time with another woman (maybe that explains the "2 Guests", on that Room Service receipt - ALSO, maybe that's our "you're all gonna die, anyway" woman).
The Sheriff is just trying to justify the worthlessness of his department. If the Sheriff admitted that the guy acted alone, then he would have to admit that they had no effect on the situation. So the Sheriff came up with a BS story about him trying to escape, to make it look like the police prevented him escaping. Yeah the dead man was trying to escape.

There is zero evidence that the guy had any help, and there is zero evidence that he was trying to escape. This was clearly a lone wolf suicide mission. There was no way he was going to escape, and he knew that.
As for the receipt. The two guests part, is meaningless. There is nothing on the receipt that indicates it was for more then one person, except 2 Pepsis, and he probably just wanted to drink two Pepsis. It's not like one person can't easily eat 1 burger, 1 bagel, 1 bowl of soup, one water and two cans of soda. That is a typical room service meal for some one holed up in a hotel room getting ready for a mass murder.
The receipt shows there were "2 guests". Look at it again. Why would it say 2 guests in the first place if it was just Paddock staying in the room? I bet when Paddock checked in there were 2 guests listed and that is how it got on the receipt. The hotel staff is not talking.
I say we find this Antonio and hold him at gunpoint to get this information.

Yes, that is correct. He used his wife's Players Card to rent the room. So the records would show that she was in the room too. But it was still just him there, and the amount of food ordered would be consistent with just him being in the room.
You can't use someone else's identity to check into a hotel room.
You can't pay for things with someone else's players card.
"He rented the room in his own name"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/us/las-ve ... index.html
I said he used her card. That has been reported.
Wrong Planet is being stupid and not letting me post the link to the above source. So it you are interested you will have to find the article yourself.
Yes, that is correct. He used his wife's Players Card to rent the room. So the records would show that she was in the room too. But it was still just him there, and the amount of food ordered would be consistent with just him being in the room.
You can't use someone else's identity to check into a hotel room.
You can't pay for things with someone else's players card.
"He rented the room in his own name"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/us/las-ve ... index.html
I said he used her card. That has been reported.
He used her to card to play slots, not to rent the room.
"Paddock had been gambling the past few days using his wife's ID card. "
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/10/02/ ... as-gunman/
Presumably, he knew he would be dead, and wanted to give her the comp points.
Multiple sources have said that Paddock was an average guy and there was nothing out of the ordinary that would indicate he was about to commit such an atrocity.
While there was nothing to indicate he would do such a thing, it's not true that there wasn't something out of the ordinary.
Paddock had been more or less estranged from his family, but before the shooting, sent his mother a walker and a box of cookies, and sent a text to his brother asking how their mother was.
For Paddock, this was out of the ordinary, but it goes overlooked because NTs don't see things that conform to socially appropriate behavior as out of the ordinary, even if it is a deviation from the individual's own normal behavior.
Deviation from societal norms = unacceptable.
Deviation to societal norms = acceptable.
...The obvious interpretation of that was that they were " goodbye "/" one last time " gestures on his part, before he carried out his plan and died.
_________________
Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.

My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
jrjones9933
Veteran

Joined: 13 May 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,144
Location: The end of the northwest passage
Campin_Cat
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2014
Age: 63
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,953
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.
Very curious. Since we're all speculating, I'll offer a new theory I haven't seen yet.
This guy's father was a bank robber, he escaped from prison, was on the FBI's most wanted list, evaded capture for years, etc. I think the father at some point told him, "You're never going to amount to anything. I stole a fortune. I broke out of prison. I evaded the FBI. I'm the greatest. You're never going to be anything." So the kid decided, "I'll show him."
That's my theory. Until we get the ISIS tape.
Works, for ME----cuz, it ties-in, nicely, I feel, with what I said about his father not lovin' him enough / being there, for 'im, etc.
It's also something that could set-the-stage for a possible future narcissist, who wanted to shoot-up a bunch of people, so others would think he was special / brilliant / whatever; make a name for himself / go-down in history, and so-forth.
*********************************
Also, something I keep forgetting to say..... It's a wonder to me, that he didn't continue shooting for the full 75-minutes----or, at least, WAAAAAY more minutes, than he did----thus, killing / injuring alot MORE people. I'm thinking that MOST crazed shooters would've just shot the security guard (and any others that showed-up in his camera), and just went-back to shooting the festival attendees.
I totally agree with SH90 (I THINK it was) who said that with the arrival of the security guard, Paddock figured more would follow, and that he wanted to end his life, on HIS terms----but, I still think it's a little strange for someone so set on killing ALOT of people, that he didn't continue shooting, until they blew-open his door (lots of times, shooters have shot until the cops, appeared, and then took their own life, right in front of them).
_________________
White female; age 59; diagnosed Aspie.
I use caps for emphasis----I'm NOT angry or shouting. I use caps like others use italics, underline, or bold.
"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)
You get to know someone pretty well when you work with them for 6 years, and this quotes a primary source instead of speculation:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-veg ... story.html
Jason Aldean opened for SNL last night.
https://youtu.be/4RRCbVBCRBE
_________________
I am the dust that dances in the light. - Rumi
Campin_Cat
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2014
Age: 63
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,953
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.
Yeah, see..... The cops were just on "60 Minutes", and they said Paddock had enough guns / ammunition in his room, that: "He coulda held us off, for hours".
I'm thinkin' that this, though, will never be answered, as Paddock was the only one, I'm assuming, that could answer it.
_________________
White female; age 59; diagnosed Aspie.
I use caps for emphasis----I'm NOT angry or shouting. I use caps like others use italics, underline, or bold.
"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)
Very curious. Since we're all speculating, I'll offer a new theory I haven't seen yet.
This guy's father was a bank robber, he escaped from prison, was on the FBI's most wanted list, evaded capture for years, etc. I think the father at some point told him, "You're never going to amount to anything. I stole a fortune. I broke out of prison. I evaded the FBI. I'm the greatest. You're never going to be anything." So the kid decided, "I'll show him."
That's my theory. Until we get the ISIS tape.
Works, for ME----cuz, it ties-in, nicely, I feel, with what I said about his father not lovin' him enough / being there, for 'im, etc.
It's also something that could set-the-stage for a possible future narcissist, who wanted to shoot-up a bunch of people, so others would think he was special / brilliant / whatever; make a name for himself / go-down in history, and so-forth.
*********************************
Also, something I keep forgetting to say..... It's a wonder to me, that he didn't continue shooting for the full 75-minutes----or, at least, WAAAAAY more minutes, than he did----thus, killing / injuring alot MORE people. I'm thinking that MOST crazed shooters would've just shot the security guard (and any others that showed-up in his camera), and just went-back to shooting the festival attendees.
I totally agree with SH90 (I THINK it was) who said that with the arrival of the security guard, Paddock figured more would follow, and that he wanted to end his life, on HIS terms----but, I still think it's a little strange for someone so set on killing ALOT of people, that he didn't continue shooting, until they blew-open his door (lots of times, shooters have shot until the cops, appeared, and then took their own life, right in front of them).
I think Mr. Darmok is oversimplifying.
_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Yeah, see..... The cops were just on "60 Minutes", and they said Paddock had enough guns / ammunition in his room, that: "He coulda held us off, for hours".
I'm thinkin' that this, though, will never be answered, as Paddock was the only one, I'm assuming, that could answer it.
And the girlfriend. But now, she's just a person of interest. Interest my ass. She knows a lot more or she wouldn't have had a damn lawyer.
I could see this case winding up on television - "The bump stock doesn't fit, your honor".
_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
THE CASINOS ARE NOW TALKING:
Las Vegas gunman seemed like 'a rational man,' Steve Wynn tells 'Fox News Sunday'
Chief executive of Wynn Resorts in Las Vegas enhanced security at his properties after deciding a year ago that Las Vegas was a soft target.
A week after a gunman used the 32nd floor of a Las Vegas hotel as a hunting perch to kill 58 people in what is the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, casino magnate Steve Wynn says the gunman was known to staff, seemed like “a rational man,” and that beefing up security, re-training staff and implementing strict “do not disturb” rules are key to keeping visitors safe.
Wynn, the billionaire CEO of Wynn Resorts, in an exclusive interview with “Fox News Sunday,” said he reassessed his casino’s security in 2015, when he developed a high-level counterterrorism program.
“I got every consultant and adviser I can think of to come through from Ray Kelly to the people from Seal Team 6. It took us from Thanksgiving until May to develop and institute and recruit a program of counterterrorism and it will be two years this May,” Wynn told "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace.
“Basically we had to recruit and expand security by tens of millions of dollars to cover every entrance, to retrain the entire workforce -- from housekeeping and room service -- and people are in the tower and observing people. We had to cover every exit and every aspect of the building to see if we could identify and preempt any kind of terroristic or violent action. It is never perfect, of course, but what you can do, to use local vernacular: you can change the odds,” Wynn said.
The Las Vegas gunman, Stephen Paddock, reportedly was holed up in his suite at the Mandalay Bay for three days, instituting a type of “do not disturb” policy that Wynn says would have alerted his Wynn Resorts staff to investigate.
“We also have rules about do not disturb,” Wynn said. “If a room goes on do not disturb for more than 12 hours, we investigate. We constantly -- we don't allow guns in this building unless they're being carried by our employees and there's a lot of them. But if anybody's got a gun and we find them continually, we eject them from the hotel.”
Wynn also said Stephen Paddock and his girlfriend were well-known to his staff.
“He's been staying in Las Vegas since ‘06. So you know, we're talking about 11 years with his girlfriend or at least in recent years, frequent visitor, once or twice a month, to this hotel and others. The most vanilla profile one could possibly imagine. A modest gambler at least by our standards, you know, nothing serious, paid promptly, never owed any money anywhere in Las Vegas. He didn't fit the profile of a problem or compulsive gambler.”
When asked whether he had a motive regarding Paddock’s murderous rampage, Wynn suggested that his previous behavior suggested the gunman was “a rational man.”
'Every historical review of his behavior indicates that he was a rational man.'
- Steve Wynn, CEO Wynn Resorts
“This is a man who behaved rationally, privately, a little introverted, liked to play video poker. But he was a rational man. And every historical review of his behavior indicates that he was a rational man; so was his girlfriend. And yet he prepared over an extended period of time, a totally irrational act.
“Now, this sounds like someone either totally demented -- a behavior which he never evidenced -- or someone who's sending a message. This is a plan. We don't know what that message is or if there is one, but this behavior, according to my employees, is as stunning, as unexpected as anybody, any of them have ever met. And that's the status, you know, that I hear from the sheriff, and watching television that seems to be the moment -- the momentary analysis of this situation. I really don't have anything to add to that.”
_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Vegas prostitute says Stephen Paddock enjoyed violent rape fantasies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk
Stephen Paddock known to have hired prostitutes on regular visits to Las Vegas
One has spoken out about their 'violent' sex sessions and Paddock's 'dark side'
She said the gunman as 'obsessive', 'paranoid' and loved conspiracy theories
Police are still hunting for a call-girl Paddock solicited days before massacre
A Las Vegas prostitute who was hired by murderer Stephen Paddock has spoken out about their 'violent' sex sessions and how he bragged about having 'bad blood'.
The woman, who spoke anonymously, said she would spend hours drinking and gambling in Sin City with Paddock, who she described as 'paranoid' and 'obsessive'.
If he hit a winning streak, he would take her back to his room for 'really aggressive and violent sex' including living out rape fantasies, she said.
A prostitute who was hired by Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock has told how he harbored rape fantasies and got her to take part in 'violent' sex session
A prostitute who was hired by Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock has told how he harbored rape fantasies and got her to take part in 'violent' sex session
The 27-year-old, who was not named, described Paddock as 'paranoid', 'obsessive', and said he ranted about conspiracy theories including 9/11 being 'an inside job' (pictured, the hotel from which Paddock carried out his killings)
The 27-year-old, who was not named, described Paddock as 'paranoid', 'obsessive', and said he ranted about conspiracy theories including 9/11 being 'an inside job' (pictured, the hotel from which Paddock carried out his killings)
Police are questioning Las Vegas prostitutes as they try to ascertain a motive for the worst mass shooting in American history. A note with a number of phone numbers on it was found in Paddock's hotel room which police are using to make inquiries
Police are questioning Las Vegas prostitutes as they try to ascertain a motive for the worst mass shooting in American history. A note with a number of phone numbers on it was found in Paddock's hotel room which police are using to make inquiries
Paddock also boasted about his bank-robber father, saying that 'the bad streak is in my blood' and 'I was born bad', according to texts seen by the Sun on Sunday.
The 27-year-old woman said Paddock, 64, would often rant about conspiracy theories including how 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.
The escort, who said Paddock paid her $6,000-a-time for their meetings, also had texts in which he described tying her up 'while you scream for help'.
She spoke out after family members revealed that Paddock often consorted with prostitutes who were laid on by hotels while he paid regular visits to the city.
Officials close to the investigation into the shooting revealed that Paddock may have hired an escort in the days before the massacre.
A receipt from Paddock's hotel room showed two people ordered room service in the days before the attack.
Family members revealed that Paddock often sought the company of prostitutes while in Vegas as they said his relationship with girlfriend Marilou Danley was 'not warm'
Family members revealed that Paddock often sought the company of prostitutes while in Vegas as they said his relationship with girlfriend Marilou Danley was 'not warm'
Paddock shot 58 people dead and wounded more than 500 when he opened fire on the Las Vegas Strip using an arsenal of 23 weapons
Paddock shot 58 people dead and wounded more than 500 when he opened fire on the Las Vegas Strip using an arsenal of 23 weapons
Temporary graves have sprung up along The Strip honoring some of the victims of the tragedy, which took place a week ago
Temporary graves have sprung up along The Strip honoring some of the victims of the tragedy, which took place a week ago
Meanwhile investigators said they are interviewing other call girls in the hope of ascertaining a motive for the worst mass shooting in American history.
In Paddock's room, officials found a piece of paper containing a number of phone numbers but they reiterated no suicide note was found.
Law enforcement have said they are 'confident' Paddock carried out the Mandalay Bay massacre from his hotel room alone.
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said on Friday that investigators are sure no one else was in the room before he shot dead 58 and injured almost 500 on Sunday.
Earlier, NBC News had reported a mysterious charger that did not match any of Paddock's cellphones - raising the possibility that another person had been with Paddock beforehand.
However, later police said that they have now matched all the cell phones and all the chargers and that they belong to Paddock.
Paddock boasted about having 'bad blood' because of his father Benjamin, who was once wanted by the FBI for bank robbery
Paddock boasted about having 'bad blood' because of his father Benjamin, who was once wanted by the FBI for bank robbery
Benjamin was nicknamed 'Big Daddy', 'Chromedome' and 'Old Baldy' and described by FBI agents hunting him as 'psychopathic, armed and dangerous'
Benjamin was nicknamed 'Big Daddy', 'Chromedome' and 'Old Baldy' and described by FBI agents hunting him as 'psychopathic, armed and dangerous'
It was earlier revealed that Benjamin Paddock, Stephen's father, was an FBI most-wanted bank robber and confidence man known as 'Big Daddy'.
Nenjamin was captured in Las Vegas in 1960 - then escaped and lived on the run for a decade.
He was described as psychopathic, armed and dangerous and suicidal - and the public were told not to approach the man known as 'Chromedome' and 'Old Baldy'.
Stephen was just seven years old and living in Arizona when his father Benjamin Paddock was nabbed by the FBI for a series of bank robberies.
At the time, Stephen's mother tried desperately to shield her young son and his three siblings from the devastating news that their father was living a double life as a bank robber and con-man.
'We're trying to keep Steve from knowing his father is held as a bank robber,' a neighbour told the Tucson Daily Citizen on July 29, 1960. 'I hardly know the family, but Steve is a nice boy. It's a terrible thing.'
_________________
Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Campin_Cat
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2014
Age: 63
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,953
Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. LOL
_________________
White female; age 59; diagnosed Aspie.
I use caps for emphasis----I'm NOT angry or shouting. I use caps like others use italics, underline, or bold.
"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
Staying in hotel for work |
23 Apr 2025, 10:16 pm |
Undeniable evidence JFK killed by 2nd shooter |
01 Jun 2025, 3:52 am |
Breaking Bad and BCS |
18 Jun 2025, 9:27 pm |
Breaking Up With a Friend |
04 Jul 2025, 2:39 pm |