Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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Of course, if people exercise more, they will become less susceptible to any virus or bacterium.

I’m glad there’s advocacy of being proactive, rather than predicting some sort of apocalyptic event based upon the Coronavirus. It won’t be the Black Death, Spanish Flu, etc.

The Centers for Disease Control does not feel that wearing a mask is necessary—unless one has an active infection, or is a health care worker.

I'm still seeking opinions please, especially from Americans. The flight is already booked.

I would be on the fence about it. I would watch for developments.

The longer I wait to book airbnb, the more it will cost. But, if I book airbnb it's also a 50% payment nonrefundable.

That’s probably true for the “better” places, especially.

When is this person going?

Late April.

You are too naive to believe what the government says. They say that because the supply of masks in the US is simple not enough. Taiwan stopped exporting masks a long time ago, and ration them to its residents. Do you trust a place that has been battle-hardened to fight epidemics, or do you trust your US government? US government has to say that (which is only partially true: masks help, but are not 100% efffective), because they can't implement a rationing program.

Governments have to do what's best for its citizens. Unfortunately in this case, the best US government can do is a little bit of a white lie. Taiwan of course also tries to minimize the usage of masks. But what they do is to tell its citizens there is no need to wear masks in open spaces.

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Plenty of people wore masks in Chinatown during the SARS epidemic of 2003. The percentage of people wearing masks is much lower now.

This doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be vigilant, and keep track of the situation.

Hand Sanitizers

The threat, the coronavirus, is generally transmitted through the air. It is transmitted between people two main ways. You are near someone who is infected, they sneeze or cough and small droplets which carry some of the coronavirus travels through the air. You breathe the air and become infected. Or the person coughs or sneezes and these small droplets land on an object. You touch the object and then touch your face and then become infected.

So in the first case, how far will these droplets travel in the air. The answer is less than 6 feet. So if you stay away 6 feet from an infected person, you are generally safe. But out in public you do not know who is infected and who is not. They do not exactly wear signs saying "I have the coronavirus". But if you shelter-in-place in your home or apartment, you are relatively safe. But most people find it difficult to do this. They need to work, to buy groceries, etc. So when you leave the safety of your home, you incur a risk of becoming infected. One way to provide some protection is using a proper face mask such as an N95 face mask that will filter out most of these coronavirus particles.



But what about the second route of transmission. Someone coughs or sneezes and the droplets land on objects that you subsequently touch. The general solution is to wash your hands with soap and water. But is that realistic?
If you wash with water for 20 seconds, the contamination is reduced around 77%.
If you wash with soap and water, the contamination level is reduced a total of around 92%.
But the problem here, is that most people touch their face around 500 times per day.
If I washed my hands every time I touched my face, I would probably spend my entire life at the bathroom sink.

This is where hand sanitizers come into play.



Hand sanitizing gel is an evaporating gel that kills 99.99% of the germs in 15 seconds. Rather than just trying to wash away the germs I am more focused on killing them (or deactivating them). Besides it is fairly inexpensive. I would recommend obtaining a large bottle and then a small size individual bottle that one can carry around in their pockets when they are on the go. When the small bottle is empty it can be refilled using the large bottle. It is probably a good routine to use this gel every time one gets the urge to touch their face out in public.

So soap and water is good, but soap and water and hand sanitizing gel is even better; much, much better.

But there is another wrinkle. Both N95 face mask and now even sanitizing gel have been flying off the shelves as people prepare for the threat of the coronavirus. They are quickly becoming OUT OF STOCK.

Thanks Jimmy.

This is an elevator case mentioned in Korea.

http://www.donga.com/en/article/all/20200229/1992687/1/First-case-of-COVID-19-transmission-inside-an-elevator

There is question as whether the 41-year-old woman got infected because she wasn't wearing a mask (whereas her children were). One possibility is that she touched the elevator buttons.

In Taiwan, many people carry hand sanitizers. Some more zealous people use the tips of retractable ball pens to touch the elevator buttons, or anything with a retractable tip (safer), or with a cap (less safe).

Sure, those are more extreme measures. Most people would probably just take the risk, and opt for washing hands with soap a bit more often.

^ ^^ Thanks both of you for your replies .

Coronavirus infections rose 50 percent in one day in Italy.

More than 1,694 cases were confirmed in Italy through Sunday -- a 50 percent jump from just 24 hours earlier. The death toll in Italy stands at 34.

I spent the last 3 days putting together a plan to address the Coronavirus threat from my perspective. Here is a link.

Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic

Lands , countries.....poteito , potato. Who gives a crap ?

In Norway we say "flere land" = several countries....i just wrote it in english , what the krauts say i couldnt care less about.....you understood what i meant anyway , nitpick for nitpicks sake

The Australian government has a much simpler plan
1. Stock up on essentials
2. get vaccinated for the common flu
3. wash your hands regularly everytime you go outiside
4. Keep a minimum of 2m away from a potentially infected person

Provisions now out of stock in Melbourne shopping centres
1. toilet paper
2. pasta
3. long life milk

Doomesday preppers on the moove.