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09 Jul 2020, 3:28 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

He didn’t actually “threaten her” with physical harm.

If she keeps her mouth shut, she’ll probably get an ACD with community service.

The CW (civilian witness) has refused to cooperate.

It’s possible that the case will be dismissed.

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

How do you know she doesn't have an anxiety disorder?

It could be that his build is much larger than hers, so it added to the "intimidation" she felt...And we don't know the tone used in making the statement (words on a screen can appear very different to people than those same words do when spoken).

It's easy to judge a person as "guilty" without full knowledge of what happened, much harder to treat them as "innocent until proven guilty".

Are you saying the court should mandate psych treatment and evaluation instead of community service or jail time since her "panic attack" was what led to her threatening to have the guy falsely arrested?

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09 Jul 2020, 3:30 pm

The guy is a nerdy-looking guy with wire-frame glasses. He looks like a librarian more than he looks like a thug. He’s also considerably older than the woman.

He’s just not an intimidating type.

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09 Jul 2020, 3:48 pm

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I got banned from AF for 'posting n-word music' within a few days of joining.

That place wasn't for me, either.

What is AF?

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09 Jul 2020, 3:50 pm

"A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to be false or baseless, he or she"
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/ ... 40-50.html

1. Is the man African -American? Yes.
2. Was he in the park? Yes.
3. Did he make a threat directed at her and her dog? Yes.

She conveyed truthful information, no crime.

She even was nice enough to warn him, and give him a chance to back down.

It even turned out the guy made good on his threat, by engaging in criminal behavior of luring her dog from her.

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09 Jul 2020, 3:55 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:

"A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to be false or baseless, he or she"
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/ ... 40-50.html

1. Is the man African -American? Yes.
2. Was he in the park? Yes.
3. Did he make a threat directed at her and her dog? Yes.

So, no crime.

It even turns out the guy made good on this threat, by engaging in criminal behavior of luring her dog from her.

Don't be too surprised if your interpretation doesn't match the courts ruling.

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10 Jul 2020, 10:01 am

Brictoria wrote:

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His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

I have anxiety disorder and it wouldn't occur to me to call the cops on a black person.

And anxiety disorder counts as a bigger problem.

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10 Jul 2020, 3:36 pm

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The black jogger is not cooperating with the prosecutor.

He likely committed a crime in luring her dog away.

Not sure on that...While it is a felony to do so, if it is being done to enforce a law I believe there is an exeption where it "is incidental to the enforcement of some law or regulation" (and so would depend on whether he was authorised to enforce the "dogs off leashes" law/regulation).

Well, since he is not working for law enforcement, he is not authorized to "enforce the law".

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10 Jul 2020, 3:38 pm

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And anxiety disorder counts as a bigger problem.

What do you mean by that phrase? Are you saying that having an anxiety disorder can, somehow, be used against the person who has it? Wouldn't this be a discrimination if that was the case?

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10 Jul 2020, 3:46 pm

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How do you know the GUY doesn’t have an anxiety disorder....and is triggered by dogs off leashes?

Because he prepared the bones ahead of time, so clearly it wasn't a "knee jerk" reaction.

By the way, I was bitten by a dog when I was 6, and I am very much triggered by the dogs off leashes. I try to change routs each time I see a dog but if I already happened to be too close to the dog, I might get into the panic mode and start screaming for them to take the dog on leash. However, I wouldn't be taping it on camera since my only concern would be the immediate safety. His behavior seems a lot more calculated than mine, so it is hard to believe that he was triggered.

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10 Jul 2020, 3:48 pm

League_Girl wrote:

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His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

How do you define "threat"?

The way I define it is "if you do X, I will do Y". In this case X is failing to leash the dog and Y is "doing something you wouldn't like". So, by this definition, it is a threat.

If you disagree, how would you define the word "threat" then?

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10 Jul 2020, 3:55 pm

QFT wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

Even if it might fit a dictionary definition it would be stretching the legal definition and that's why she's facing charges for making a false report and he hasn't faced any charges. He did nothing wrong in the eyes of the law and she did.

She tried to use the police as a weapon and it turns out they're not interested in being her armed thugs and are holding her to account for her actions as they damn well should.

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10 Jul 2020, 3:56 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

Even if it might fit a dictionary definition it would be stretching the legal definition and that's why she's facing charges and he hasn't.

Whats the legal definition then?

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10 Jul 2020, 3:59 pm

QFT wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

Even if it might fit a dictionary definition it would be stretching the legal definition and that's why she's facing charges and he hasn't.

Whats the legal definition then?

I'm too lazy to dig up the exact wording under New York law when it's obvious by the fact that no charges were applied that this didn't meet it.

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10 Jul 2020, 4:34 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

Even if it might fit a dictionary definition it would be stretching the legal definition and that's why she's facing charges and he hasn't.

Whats the legal definition then?

I'm too lazy to dig up the exact wording under New York law when it's obvious by the fact that no charges were applied that this didn't meet it.

If you are too lazy to dig it out, how was she supposed to dig it out right on the spot when she felt scared?

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10 Jul 2020, 4:50 pm

I believe all this will be a moot point.

I feel she’ll be offered an ACD with the provision that she does some sort of community service in a “disadvantaged” neighborhood.

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10 Jul 2020, 5:06 pm

QFT wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

QFT wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

TheRobotLives wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

His threat was unspecified, "I am going to do something you won't like".

Seriously, if that is perceived as a threat, that person's got bigger problems.

Even if it might fit a dictionary definition it would be stretching the legal definition and that's why she's facing charges and he hasn't.

Whats the legal definition then?

I'm too lazy to dig up the exact wording under New York law when it's obvious by the fact that no charges were applied that this didn't meet it.

If you are too lazy to dig it out, how was she supposed to dig it out right on the spot when she felt scared?

She can use her own better judgment instead of choosing to maliciously use the police as a weapon. She told him she was going to lie about what he had done and proceeded to call exaggerating what had occurred. That's why she's not even receiving sympathy from the police.

If you think she's in the right instead of arguing with me offer her your help and post the news story when she's acquitted or the case is dismissed. (mind you, if she's acquitted because her victim doesn't cooperate that would not prove your point)

If you're just sympathetic to her but don't actually have a case to make, accept that her attempt to take advantage of institutional biases in policing was so egregious that even the cops are offended.

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