20 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm
20 Oct 2023, 7:41 pm
The UN published this yesterday:
They recalled that the UN Security Council has repeatedly condemned the use of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, which is prohibited under international humanitarian and criminal law. The unlawful denial of humanitarian access and depriving civilians of objects indispensable to their survival are also a violation of international humanitarian law, the experts warned.
The UN experts called for the protection of all humanitarian workers, after the World Health Organization (WHO) documented more than 136 attacks on health care services in the occupied Palestinian territory, including 59 attacks on the Gaza Strip, which resulted in the death of at least 16 health workers since the beginning of hostilities on 7 October. Israeli bombardment on Gaza has also killed 15 staff of the United Nations Refugee Works Agency (UNRWA) and four Palestine Red Crescent paramedics in an ambulance. An ambulance driver of Magen David Adom in Israel lost his life while driving to treat injured people.
“The complete siege of Gaza coupled with unfeasible evacuation orders and forcible population transfers, is a violation of international humanitarian and criminal law. It is also unspeakably cruel,” the experts said.
They recalled that the wilful and systematic destruction of civilian homes and infrastructure, known as ‘domicide’, and cutting off drinking water, medicine, and essential food is clearly prohibited under international criminal law.
“We are sounding the alarm: There is an ongoing campaign by Israel resulting in crimes against humanity in Gaza. Considering statements made by Israeli political leaders and their allies, accompanied by military action in Gaza and escalation of arrests and killing in the West Bank, there is also a risk of genocide against the Palestine people,” the experts said.
“There are no justifications or exceptions for such crimes. We are appalled by the inaction of the international community in the face of belligerent war-mongering,” the experts said.
“The Gazan population, half of whom are children, have already suffered many decades of unlawful brutal occupation and lived under the blockade for 16 years,” the experts said.
“It is time to immediately cease fire and ensure urgent and unimpeded access to essential humanitarian supplies, including food, water, shelter, medicine, fuel and electricity. The physical safety of the civilian population must be guaranteed,” the experts said.
“The occupation needs to end and there must be reparation, restitution and reconstruction, towards full justice for Palestinians,” they said.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases ... t-humanity
But..but...but. they didn't denounce Hamas thus are Hamas simps.
In a land as small as the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank, I doubt it's possible to dig a tunnel under someone's house all the way to Israel and claim the people living on top of the tunnels have no knowledge of it. The Palestinians know what HAMAS is up to, they may not shoot the rockets or cut the fences, but they celebrate. How can you celebrate and claim to be ignorant? They want it done, even if they aren't the one's doing it. That's the way of Egypt, Jordan, and many others. They all straddle the fence both for and against these things, that way they have an escape politically. If public or political opinion is harmful, they back peddle. Promising support and then going back on it... I'd like to know where their sympathy is for Palestine. Untrustworthy, empty promises...
20 Oct 2023, 7:50 pm
From July 2021:
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/4 ... eli-attack
I wonder what the situation will be like when this is all over and done with. Probably 99% of Gazan children will have PTSD.
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20 Oct 2023, 7:54 pm
20 Oct 2023, 7:58 pm
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/4 ... eli-attack
I wonder what the situation will be like when this is all over and done with. Probably 99% of Gazan children will have PTSD.
Just to be fair, this also impacts Israeli children as well
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6735243/
We are not playing the oppression Olympics here, but Israel has has a gargantuan task bringing up children in a geographic zone where every single country surrounding them wants to kill jews and conquer their territory.
20 Oct 2023, 8:03 pm
I didn't claim that it doesn't impact Israeli children or children in other countries. 
The percentage is much lower among Israeli children than Palestinian children and Palestinian children often do not have the same access to mental health services.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/hea ... 144155001/
HOWEVER, every child matters. Obviously. I think I had PTSD when I was a kid, but I was not diagnosed until adulthood.
The discrimination is not one-sided. Animosity works both ways.
20 Oct 2023, 8:42 pm
20 Oct 2023, 8:55 pm
20 Oct 2023, 9:20 pm
There is a vibe in this thread that I can't put my finger on, but maybe that's just me as I tend to stick to light-hearted threads.
One side is afraid to fully voice their opinions, but it's not the side that usually has that problem, and they're not used to what it feels like.
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21 Oct 2023, 9:59 am
I kind of get some older peoples' attitudes towards various wars around the world when they say stuff like "Why do we let this continue on forever? Why don't those in power just pick a side and carpet bomb the other side out of existence ? Problem permanently solved." kind of thing.
I know that sounds REALLY BAD, but I kinda get it. Allied soldiers get sent off to die in repeat wars in various countries over and over and over and over again, along with all kinds of supplies, weaponry, etc etc.. but you'd think if military action were going to, and ever meant to, solve a conflict they'd just solve it permanently and be done with the whole bs game.
Too simplistic and not how the world works, I know that, too. And even if powerful nations chose a side and carpet bombed the other into oblivion 100% completely, some other nation-tribe-terrorist.org would get their panties in a bunch and become the next enemy; rinse & repeat selling bullets like shampoo.. a never ending cycle of sending money straight down the drain.
Just kind of sick of it and really do wish some nation or another Could "just get on with it," if they're going to murder people and then just get all the murdering done and put all these endless wars behind us. But surely the righteous become the terrorists and someone else will be determined to unseat them from their position of power.. so, I guess we're going to keep doing this stupid s**t until we've bombed and burned everything beyond the Earth's capacity to heal and we'll no longer need bombs for heat to kill each other - the Sun will do that job just fine after we've taken out all the shade cover provided by trees that used to grow where spent munitions got planted instead.
So ridiculous that humans consider ourselves intelligent beings while we're fast at work ensuring we make our home planet uninhabitable for all but tardigrades & various extremophiles that can survive in acidic oceans. If only we'd have evolved into the everlasting crab formation that seems to not change for hundreds of Millions of years. Maybe our ghosty spirits are crab shaped in the ether? Hmmm.. 
So, anyways - cheers to another day of murdering each other over territory, skin colour, religious fanaticism and all the other BS that gets in the way of cooperatively working to heal the planet we all rely on for the perpetuation of our entire species both here and any possibility of becoming star faring. *sips coffee*
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