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24 Apr 2020, 8:05 pm

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Burning man is also cancelled.


Oh no! what on earth are selfish pleasure seeking hedonistic narcissists to do now :lol:



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24 Apr 2020, 8:49 pm

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^ Shorter version of NY Times stories: Orange Man Bad! Orange Man Racist! Orange Man Lies! We must press forward and destroy millions of American lives to get the Bad Orange Man!!


Go ahead, take his medical advice. I dare you. :lol:


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24 Apr 2020, 10:03 pm

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Horrific black cat COVID-19 ‘remedy’

A particularly cruel and gruesome method of ‘treating’ COVID-19 with black cats has emerged, with the ‘medicine’ being distributed online.



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24 Apr 2020, 10:09 pm

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A particularly cruel and gruesome method of ‘treating’ COVID-19 with black cats has emerged, with the ‘medicine’ being distributed online.

Pffft. Everyone knows only the Bad Orange Cats work.


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24 Apr 2020, 10:31 pm

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Darmok wrote:
^ Shorter version of NY Times stories: Orange Man Bad! Orange Man Racist! Orange Man Lies! We must press forward and destroy millions of American lives to get the Bad Orange Man!!


Go ahead, take his medical advice. I dare you. :lol:


Certainly thins the herd
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -phosphate



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24 Apr 2020, 11:41 pm

How the cure becomes worse than the disease.

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24 Apr 2020, 11:54 pm

Wow! I know someone who was saying that a month ago! Scary stuff.


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24 Apr 2020, 11:58 pm

unemployment + covid19 = twice the damage



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25 Apr 2020, 1:02 am

cyberdad wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Burning man is also cancelled.


Oh no! what on earth are selfish pleasure seeking hedonistic narcissists to do now :lol:

Lots of amazing art created there,
and hedonistic pleasure seeking.


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25 Apr 2020, 1:57 am

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Wow! I know someone who was saying that a month ago! Scary stuff.


I hope he will say it again,
In one incarnation or the other. :wink:



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25 Apr 2020, 8:06 am

I found an interesting article in my inbox this morning.

ORIGINS OF COVID-19

No, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is not a biological weapon. But that doesn't mean the virus didn't escape from a laboratory. A growing body of circumstantial evidence indicates that very well may be what happened.

When the novel coronavirus, now known as SARS-CoV-2, emerged from China, conspiracy theorists -- including a prominent cable news host -- were quick to point out that Wuhan is host to a "biological weapons" lab. Thus, according to the conspiracy, the virus was a leaked bioweapon.

There are two gigantic problems with that theory. First, there is no reason to believe that the Wuhan laboratory is in the business of producing biological weapons. The lab is a high-security facility, known as biosafety level 4 (BSL-4), similar to the ones we have at the CDC in Atlanta.

Second, the SARS-CoV-2 genome was sequenced by China and released to the public (and subsequently sequenced many more times). If China actually built a biological weapon, they would not have handed over the recipe so quickly and easily. Besides, a study published in Nature Medicine uses a genetic analysis to show convincingly that the virus evolved in an animal and jumped into humans.

But that doesn't mean the "jump" occurred in a wet market, as was assumed at the beginning of the pandemic. The reason that assumption was made was two-fold: (1) It's the simplest and most likely explanation; and (2) It happened before with SARS.

As the weeks and months have gone by, however, circumstantial evidence is piling up that the virus actually came from the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory. Once again, it is not a biological weapon. Instead, it appears that Chinese scientists were studying a novel virus they found, and it accidentally infected a worker and "escaped" from the lab.

Evidence that SARS-CoV-2 Came from the Wuhan Lab

An excellent investigative report by Jim Geraghty for the center-right National Review extensively documents the evidence. The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs The highlights of his report include:

* Job postings at the Wuhan facility for scientists to study coronaviruses and bats.
* An announcement that new viruses had been discovered.
* When she learned of the outbreak, a Chinese virologist known as "Bat Woman" (because of her hunt for viruses in bat caves) wondered if the virus came from her lab.
* The virology institute denied the existence of the person rumored to be "patient zero", a grad student named Huang Yanling. Information about her has been removed from the institute's website, and her whereabouts are unknown. The institute now claims she is in good health.

Now, CNN reports that China is censoring any research related to the origin of the virus. According to the article, an online announcement said that "[s]tudies on the origin of the virus will receive extra scrutiny and must be approved by central government officials."

That announcement, as it so happens, was later removed, providing the best evidence yet that China is once again covering something up.

Source: Best Evidence Yet That Coronavirus Came From Wuhan BSL-4 Lab


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25 Apr 2020, 12:08 pm

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THE MYSTERIOUS EVENTS IN NORTH KOREA

So the latest news out of North Korea, perhaps I should call it gossip, is that on 12 April, Kim Jong-Un underwent surgery for a cardiovascular procedure. So I wonder if it might be appropriate to consider the possibility that the coronavirus might have got him.
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Let us apply a bit of fuzzy logic. Picture the book "Alice in Wonderland" with Kim Jong-Un portraying the Queen of Hearts. The title of a just published article in Newsweek read: NORTH KOREA CONFIRMS CORONAVIRUS CASES FOR FIRST TIME AFTER KIM JONG-UN REPEATEDLY DENIED INFECTIONS. So what do you think Kim Jong-Un would say to his underlings who leaked this information if he were still alive? My guess would be - Off with their heads!


Kim Jong Un’s health appears could be more serious than initially believed, according to reports.

Reports emerged earlier this week that Kim was gravely ill following heart surgery, although that has since been disputed. However, Japanese media now claims that Kim is in a vegetative state following a stent procedure.

Japanese magazine Shukan Gendai reported that Kim collapsed during a visit to a rural area in April. Kim reportedly required a stent procedure following the incident.

Shukan Gendai subsequently detailed how the surgeon in charge of Kim’s operation was not used to dealing with obese patients and was too nervous during the operation, leading to delays that left Kim in a “vegetative state.”

The magazine cited an unnamed member of Kim’s medical team.

Meanwhile, Reuters reported Friday that China had dispatched a team that included medical experts to North Korea following conflicting reports regarding Kim’s health.

The Chinese Communist Party’s International Liaison Department departed for North Korea on Thursday. Those involved are keeping quiet about the nature of the trip, and even the sources that reported on the trip are keeping quiet regarding what it means for Kim’s current state.

Source: Kim Jong Un in 'vegetative state', Japanese media claims; China medical experts dispatched to North Korea

So I wonder if this is a photo of the new Queen of Hearts?

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25 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm

^ She’s certainly the most prominent member of the “royal” family after her brother, but at the same time: neither traditional Confucian thought, nor communist regimes in practice, have much time for female leaders... ...if he dies/is already dead it might be quite a power struggle in the palace.

Doesn’t mean she won’t or can’t come out on top, just that it may be more difficult than we can clearly know about from the outside.



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25 Apr 2020, 2:22 pm

But I was assured that the entire system was so overwhelmed that people were dying on the sidewalks.

MOST U.S. HOSPITALS ARE EMPTY. SOON THEY MIGHT BE CLOSED FOR GOOD

Tens of thousands of health care workers across the United States are going without pay today, even as providers in the nation's hot spots struggle to contain the coronavirus pandemic

This "tale of two hospitals" is a function of clumsy, if well-intentioned, federal and state directives to halt all non-emergency procedures, which appeared at first blush to be a reasonable precaution to limit unnecessary exposure and safeguard staff, beds and equipment.

But instead of merely preserving hospital beds and other resources, this heavy-handed injunction has created a burden of its own design: a historic number of empty beds in systems left untouched by the pandemic.


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25 Apr 2020, 2:51 pm

i'm noticing those saying the lock down isn't going to cause a disaster getting less vocal



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25 Apr 2020, 4:40 pm

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i'm noticing those saying the lock down isn't going to cause a disaster getting less vocal


Almost like once the hysteria over lockdown causing disaster started to die down, they had less need to keep stating the obvious. Image


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