Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus
Blood types can make a difference in resistance to certain diseases.Type O, the oldest type is more resistant to malaria, type A is more resistant to bubonic plague.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3827391/
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Isn't Singapore very hot an humid?
Australia
Tropical north Queensland is hot, humid and sparsely populated
Victoria is currently freezing with winter-like weather and is more densely populated
Yes the infection rate/100,000 people is identical for both states = 20.2
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... -by-state/
This seems to suggest bigger factors in transmission that humidity and temp.
I worried this would happen.
The virus has made it into the Amazon.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljaze ... 18202.html
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Seems to thrive at high temps and watery environment in the human body.
The “normal” body temperature is 98.6°F (37°C)
So, if we super-heat (sauna), it kills it?
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Doctors Fear Rare Illness Sickening Young NY Children May Be Linked to COVID-19: Source
Inside Mount Sinai’s ICU this week, at least two children were exhibiting symptoms of the sickness known as Kawasaki disease, including toxic shock, according to a hospital source who asked not to be identified. At least one of those patients also tested positive for COVID-19, leaving staff to wonder if they are seeing the same link that prompted British pediatric specialists to issue an alert on Sunday.
A third child at NYU Langone Hospital was diagnosed this week with the inflammatory condition, according to family members who say they feel shaken by the experience. Their daughter, a toddler, went to the ER Thursday after several days of high fever but her condition is finally improving. The girl tested negative for coronavirus, but her mother tells NBC New York her doctors suspect her inflammatory symptoms might be linked to an undetected COVID infection from several weeks ago, when other members of the child's household were sick.
“I’m very worried about the early signs that in rare cases there’s an autoimmune response in children that causes a significant disease,” UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock said during a radio appearance in London Tuesday. “We’re not 100 percent sure because some of the people who got it didn’t test positive.”
Infectious disease doctors say it is not uncommon for Kawasaki disease to be triggered by a viral infection.
Symptoms can include prolonged fever, red eyes, gastrointestinal distress, swollen hands or feed, and if untreated Kawasaki can cause fatal heart damage.
“It’s important that doctors recognize there can be an association between COVID and Kawasaki, but I don’t want to add another layer of fear and irrational emotion to this disease,” said Dr. Jennifer Lighter of NYU Langone, who declined to discuss any specific cases at her hospital. “But I still want people to take into consideration that COVID in children is a much less severe disease than it can be in adults.”
In NYC, 273 children have been hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases. City officials believe seven have died from the coronavirus.
Mount Sinai Hospital declined to comment on any recent pediatric patients experiencing inflammatory symptoms.
The NYC Health Department tells NBC New York since Kawasaki is not a disease that must be reported to them, they can’t say if there’s been a spike in the number of pediatric cases here.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci warns US could ‘be in for a bad fall’ if coronavirus treatments don’t work
The virus will certainly make a comeback in the U.S. even as cases begin to stabilize, Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, said during an interview with The Economic Club of Washington, D.C.
Covid-19 is “not going to disappear from the planet,” he said, adding infectious disease experts are learning about how the virus behaves by watching emerging outbreaks in other regions such as southern Africa that are starting to enter their colder seasons.
“In my mind, it’s inevitable that we will have a return of the virus, or maybe even that it never went away,” he said.
Fauci also warned against states reopening businesses prematurely, saying it could cause “a rebound to get us right back in the same boat that we were in a few weeks ago.”
U.S. officials say that they are preparing to battle two bad viruses circulating at the same time as the coronavirus outbreak runs into flu season next fall and winter.
Fauci said Tuesday that he is “cautiously optimistic” researchers can develop a vaccine to prevent Covid-19, but added nothing is ever “a guarantee.”
U.S. health officials have been fast-tracking work with biotech company Moderna to develop a vaccine to prevent the disease. They began their first human trials on March 16.
Fauci said the virus has been shown to be “highly transmissible,” adding the emergence of this virus “exploded upon us” and has kept him up at night.
“Everyone is at risk unlike some infections,” he said.
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Isn't Singapore very hot an humid?
But other variables are also at play. Many parts of Australia are very hot also. So who are the people coming down with the infection in Australia. People coming in on cruise ships, college students returning to Australia from China, those very vulnerable individuals packed into nursing homes. So a nation like Australia can have people with the coronavirus infection but if environmental conditions adversely affect the spread of the contagion, the disease will quickly die out. But if environmental conditions are optimal for the spread of the virus, then it will become a hot spot totally out of control.
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Tropical north Queensland is hot, humid and sparsely populated
Victoria is currently freezing with winter-like weather and is more densely populated
Yes the infection rate/100,000 people is identical for both states = 20.2
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... -by-state/
This seems to suggest bigger factors in transmission that humidity and temp.
Be a little careful with that analogy. One of our members who lived in New York City for the longest time claimed the city was free from the virus. But when it finally appeared it swept through the city with devastating results.
So if "Victoria is currently freezing with winter-like weather and is more densely populated" then it can become a breeding ground for the virus. But if the Victorian firewalls hold, you may be able to keep the influenza under control. But Victoria is only at the beginning of Fall and then Winter is on the way.
[I have been heating my house, putting firewood in in wood stove, for six months now. Only recently have I been able to take a pause. My State of Indiana is not a populated State, but our infection rate is 246 per 100,000 population.]
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Seems to thrive at high temps and watery environment in the human body.
The “normal” body temperature is 98.6°F (37°C)
So, if we super-heat (sauna), it kills it?
Back on 15 February on page 23 of this thread, I discussed an important research findings by Dr. Stephanie Taylor, a Harvard Medical School graduate. It was discussed in the following Forbes article on 17 October 2019: This Inexpensive Action Lowers Hospital Infections And Protects Against Flu Season
It is a good read. The bottom line from her research is that to control viral and bacterial infections in hospitals [and other indoor settings], an inexpensive approach is to maintain these indoor settings within the range of 40 to 60 percent relative humidity.
One of the main points in the article is "Scientists attribute the influence of dry air to a new understanding about the behavior of airborne particles, or “infectious aerosol transmissions.” They used to assume the microbes in desiccated droplets were dead, but advances in the past several years changed that thinking. “With new genetic analysis tools, we are finding out that most of the microbes are not dead at all. They are simply dormant while waiting for a source of rehydration,” Taylor explained. “Humans are an ideal source of hydration, since we are basically 60% water. When a tiny infectious particle lands on or in a patient, the pathogen rehydrates and begins the infectious cycle all over again.”
So consider for a moment that there exist three modes of transmission for the virus. Originally we were told that when someone coughs they spray the air with virus which falls to the ground or on tables or shelves or other objects. We then touch these and then touch our mouth or nose and contaminate ourselves. Thus if we maintain a 3 foot social distance we are safe and wash our hands a million times per day with soap and water to stop the spread. But that was not true. Because when a person coughs they spread fine aerosols that can travel up to 15 feet, so maybe wearing a face mask might be beneficial after all. But that is not totally accurate either. There is another form of transmission, a third form. [I feel this is the predominant form] Viruses are not living things, they need a host - a living human body to replicate. In a low humidity environment, a virus can dry out and when they become desiccated they become very light and can become airborne and travel great distances. [Think of a room with a layer of feathers on the floor. The slightest breeze or motion will lift them up into the air and allow them to travel. But if you take a garden hose and water down the feathers, they are heavier and cling to the ground.] These desiccated airborne virus cells float through the air looking for a host. You walk along and take a deep breath and pull some into your moist wet throat. They rehydrate and begin to reproduce infecting the host.
So what the Department of Homeland Security, Science and Technology office has done is provide validity to this argument through experimentation using actual COVID-19 cells in a laboratory controlled environment.
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Blood Clots
Some of the discussion yesterday was about blood clots that lead to strokes in younger patients. Well this morning there was an interesting article that showed up in my inbox about blood clots and COVID-19. So I thought I would share it.
New York's Mount Sinai hospital reports that several patients under age 50 have suffered from COVID-19-associated strokes from blood clots. Other anecdotal and small-series reports have shown increased clotting in COVID-19 patients, often ending in death. What's going on here? Let's take a look.
Background knowledge
When our circulatory system is injured, we form clots to stop the leak and begin repair. It is a complex process involving platelets, small cellular-like elements in our blood, that provide a scaffold. At the same time, various coagulation factors interact to lay down a fine mesh of fibrin, to fill the scaffolding in, signaling an injury requiring assistance in repair. Vascular surgeons have a love-hate relationship with clotting. On the one hand, it helps fill the tiny holes our sutures leave in the artery, on the other hand, when our work is sub-optimal, it causes the repair to thrombose, another word for a clot causing the circulation to stop in that area.
We form tiny clots all the time, and our body has evolved to remove them with a system that dissolves those platelet plugs and fibrin mesh. The lung, which serves as a kind of filter for this "debris" has lots of fibrinolytic, the factors for dissolving now-unnecessary clots.
Sepsis, an overwhelming infection, bacterial or viral, affects 1.7 million Americans annually, even before COVID-19, and is a – if not the leading – cause of death in the hospital. A frequent complication of sepsis, occurring in 30-50% of cases, is Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation or DIC. The term describes a process in which the balance between clotting and clot-dissolving is out of balance, with many tiny clots being formed, using up all the necessary platelets, fibrin and clotting factors, and ending, perhaps paradoxically, in bleeding. Several viruses, including the very scary Ebola virus, are known to cause DIC. There is an increasing concern, along with a bit of evidence that DIC may also be in COVID-19's bag of tricks.
Clotting and COVID-19
The telltale signs of DIC in sepsis come from tests of the coagulation system, showing fewer platelets, thrombocytopenia is the term, an increase in fibrinogen, the precursor to fibrin, and D-dimer, a product that forms when fibrin is broken down. All are signs that clotting factors are being used up. In COVID-19, platelet levels remain relatively normal, and the usual scoring systems for identifying DIC remains stubbornly "normal" over 90% of the time, an unfortunate false negative. Other clotting factors show alterations too, prompting this statement about the laboratory presentation, phenotype, of COVID-19's pro-clotting, thrombotic, state.
"Our patients with COVID-19 had no such phenotype but were highly thrombotic without evidence of DIC. Moreover, this phenotype is also different from that of patients admitted in ICU [Intensive Care Unit} with ARDS [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome] due to bacterial pneumonia and might be a specific presentation of COVID-19."
These researchers looked at 150 consecutive ICU admissions with proven COVID-19 infections. 11.7% of these patients developed clots, most often from clots that formed in the legs and traveled to the lungs, termed pulmonary emboli, further impairing the lungs' ability to absorb oxygen and release carbon dioxide. Matched patients with non-COVID acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS had a 4.8% incidence of DIC. The clotting associated with COVID-19 was similar, but not the same, prompting researchers to speculate that the underlying cause of clotting disorders in COVID-19 infections is different.
Why?
Short answer: no one knows; it is called a novel virus for a reason and we are just gaining clinical experience with COVID-19 now. That said, there is an interesting hypothesis. We know that the Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme (ACE) receptors are the virus's entry point into our bodies. These ACE receptors are found throughout the lining of the lung, interestingly enough at elevated numbers in smokers. Still, they are also found in the cells lining the blood vessels, termed endothelium, as well as in cells in the heart. The thought is that once the virus multiplies and enters the bloodstream, it goes on to attack these other ACE receptors – causing an inflammatory response by the endothelium, endotheliitis, and the heart cells, myocarditis.
The inflammation and infection of the lining of the lungs could alter the ability of the lung to act as a filter in removing small clots and fibrin. As a result, the alveoli, that portion of the lung responsible for absorbing the oxygen that we breathe, is thickened, making for an increasing inability to extract oxygen and ultimately requiring supplemental oxygen or mechanical ventilation.
Usually, when an area in the lung is not well ventilated, blood vessels constrict, shunting blood away from those areas to maintain a good match between our ability to extract oxygen and then deliver it throughout the body. Endotheliitis could compromise the ability of the blood vessels to constrict, increasing the mismatch. It could well explain the autopsy findings of many tiny blood vessels being filled with clots. And many clotted little blood vessel results in larger and larger vessels clotting and explains the higher incidence of thrombotic events like pulmonary embolism.
Finally, an infection by COVID-19 of those heart cells resulting in myositis may well explain the increasing number of patients with abnormal heart rhythms and damage to the heart muscle. This may worsen the outcome in patients who already have underlying heart disease, one of COVID's acknowledged risk factors.
There are other theories of COVID-19's thrombotic behavior, including a belief that the degree of cellular destruction uncovers portions of the cell membrane that are, by themselves, thrombogenic, clot forming. It is just too early to know. The data is only now being gathered, and the urgency to get ahead of this disease makes it easier to skimp on methodology and produce numbers. I am a clinician; I get it. When all around you are dying, you have to do something. There is no ill intent in the communications but think of these reports as pilot studies, with very tentative conclusions.
Reliable understanding COVID-19 is going to take more time, not for want of trying, but because it requires accumulated experience.
Source: COVID-19 Patients Dying From Blood Clots
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This humidity control approach works for most types of influenza viruses and coronaviruses. And because of the testing using actual COVID-19 viruses in a DHS research lab with a bio-containment facility, we now know it also applies to COVID-19.
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The measures that were and are taken are a necessity.
The COVID-19 coronavirus is different than the Influenza virus. They are different viruses producing different symptoms. BUT they both have a relationship to the way they infect individuals. They are both seasonal infections.
One other point, if you learn how to control and minimize the spread of the coronavirus, you will also learn how to minimize the spread of the common flu.
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