Woman calls cops another Black Jogger

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i) Has that been proven?
ii) Again, is there evidence of this?
iii) Supposition based upoon observers pavlovian assumption of racist intent.


i) If that is what you consider aggressive, you've obviously lead a sheltered life. Based on personal expereience, that was a panic\anxiety based responce.
ii) So, if you felt threatened, you would turn your back on the threat? You have obviously not been bullied\assaulted, or you'd know that this is probably one of the worst things that you can do.



Its amazing what people (or companies) will do when a bullying mob target them...As you said, they watched the video (which is a selected portion of the incident), and (like you, and to a lesser degree, myself - having listened to her lawyer describing the case) have a minimal amount of information regarding the events leading up to the video. Her actions (like everyone elses) are the effect of events leading up to them, and not spontaneous, but strangely, the person filming this decided not to start taping until AFTER making the threat.

http://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism

Doesn't work AS
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/can-whit ... -12340542/
Racism doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It exists within a hierarchical structure with power at its core. Racism only works because one group has power and other groups do not.

Has she gotten another job?

I hope she is made to do community service up in the Tremont Section of the Bronx. Or the Crotona Park section.

Anybody ever watch “I Dream of Jeannie”? The character Amanda Bellows was a 1960s version of a Karen.

Yes, black people can be racist too—under any definition. Look at Mugabe and Zimbabwe.

The crucial question is "intent". Barnes would have to demonstrate her decision was based on a perceived fear she was under some type of threat,

The problem for Amy Cooper is that when you view the video the only person who seems to be making threats is her,

Mugabe and Idi Amin were racist against East Indians not white people.

You haven’t read about what Mugabe did to white farmers?

Anyway...what you say only confirms that any race of people can be racist.

I don’t buy the SJW notion that oppressed people can’t be racist.

I'll answer sequentially
i) No but
ii)wouldn't that have been her first defence when pleading her case to her employer? she's being playing the sympathy card and damsel in distress card but Amy Cooper has never played the mental illness card (yet)
iii) The court of online public opinion works like this - if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's a...(fill in the blank)
iv) It doesn't add up, she can't be feeling threatened but then aggressively approach him threatening him. A normal person would run away from the scene if they were really getting threatened by a tall black man. That's why she's being dragged to court.
v) I would remove myself from a situation where I felt both myself and my dog were under threat, I would not drag my dog and strangle it so that I could move toward the apparently threatening figure and further threaten them knowing it would only make things worse
vi) I imagine he was trying to reason with her first before realising she was about to do a "karen" on him. I'm not African American but I know very well why he recorded the incident because he legitimately felt his life was in danger if the cops showed up (I notice both you and robot pretend this wasn't an issue because in actuality it is). Luckily for him he did film it or else Amy Cooper would have lied to the police.

I think this is a battle about semantics. oppressed African people can maim, kill, steal and do bad things to white people. But if they say bad things about white people nobody cares. Thats the difference,

I’d certainly care if a black person had racist notions about me.

Read up on the Black Muslims. They believe white people would still be living in caves if not for the civilizing influence of the society of black people. The reverse of the racist notions of colonialist white people.

Nobody should get a pass if they are truly racist.

This doesn’t mean that I believe there is systemic racism against white people in the US....or in other “western” nations.

Typical, ignorant NT responce: Assume that unless diagnosed, the person is automatically NT...

Having not been diagnossed until my mid 30's, I had to suffer through a lot, endured the consequences of things that occured without knowing why they happened, and so unable to explain my reactions. Just because it hasn't been diagnosed, doesn't mean it isn't there, and if not diagnosed, how would she have been able to "play the mental illness card" (Quite an elitest\abelest term from an NT on an ASD forum).



It's more a case of "let's decide, based on a minimal excerpt of an interaction, and with no confirmation of facts, that this person\thing is bad".



Another assumption form someone who has lived a sheltered life...I realise you have no interest in facts, having the racsim glasses surgically attached, but anxiety\panic can cause actions which are competely outside a person's normal charachter, and which can be interpreted differently from the outside (speaking from personal experience).



It must be nice to have never been in a similar situation, and so able to cast judgement on other people with minimal (selected) information to make judgements around...It almost makes me wish you were removed from your ivory tower and had to experience some of the things I've had to endure, so as to expose you to the real world.



This would have to be the best evidence of ignorance of the facts (and at this time, having had them presented numerous times, it is obviously wilful). Can you explain how the words "I'm going to do what I want to do and you may not like it" can be interpreted as "trying to reason with her". Having been the vistim of assault, as well as having been trained in how to evaluate threats, that would firmly fall into the "threat"\potential assault category. And as you stated, if HE felt he was in danger, why didn't HE back away...Or is it only the white person who needs to do this (a very racist assumption\belief). From the start, it was him who instigated the entire event, yet you (with racist blinkers firmly embedded) still blame her for the event.

At this point, I can see that you lack the capacity to look beyond racial factors in these types of interactions (itself a racist action), but hopefully others who may read this will have the capacity to look at all details of the interaction, not just a select excerpt that was filmed in the late stages.

What happened to "lets have a civil discussion"? As I have said on numerous occasions I try and avoid getting personal or attacking my person - I recommend you take my advice (not the first time).


But isn't that also an assumption on your part? how is your assumption any more valid than mine with regard to Amy Cooper? Or are you exercising ASD privilege?


Isnt what this court case is for? you seem to be coming to conclusions before letting the events transpire. You and Robot were very cocky up until Amy Cooper was charged.


How do you know what life I have lived? or what traumas I have survived? I don't share every single trauma I have lived through - you seem to be basing your arguments on a lot of assumptions.


You had a terrible experience when working as a security guard and I understand that makes you more prone to be sensitive to public threats. Interestingly I don't see you exhibiting the same level of sympathy for Ahmed Arbery in the other jogger thread when he was bullied by men with guns and was ultimately shot, If I recollect you were trying to build arguments of support for the McMichaels....who were the ones who applied lethal force.


You keep bringing race back into it. I am only going by the film. You claim to be trained in detecting a potential assault yet you or Robot have not provided one link from anybody qualified in this area who supports Amy Cooper's assertions she was under threat. I would legitimately be interested to read an unbiased account.



I haven't mentioned race at all. It seems you are making that assertion not me.

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You are falling into the trap of ignoring context. If a white person calls a black person a name it has psychological impact. If a black person calls a white person a name they don't care.

Black muslims are an extreme minority but I dont recall them ever killing white people (you can correct me if I am wrong)

Nick Sandmann's lawyers used that argument to get him out of a sticky situation in Covington when he and his friends were being a public nuisance.

I care if a black person calls me a “honkie” or a “white boy”—probably not as much as when a black person is called the “N” word for excellent, historic reasons—but it does upset me.

“Whitefella” from an Aborigine is not the same as “cracker” from an African-American....or is it?

I wonder how many rape victims have heard something similar to "I'm going to do what I want and you may not like it"?

But it's not threatening, you say.

I'm sure any female on their own with an unknown male and no-one else nearby would feel perfectly safe hearing those words.

Probably because they have learnt that the left have determined that "white" people cannot ever be the victims of racism, only the (sole) perpetrators of racism.

I've seen plenty of people endure this, and when they speak up are shouted down and told they need to put up with it.

At uni, the most common one was for those of mediteranean descent to refer to Australians as "skips" in a jeering manner, and with nothing done by the facility to discourage this.

So yes, many white people DO care, and it is racist to make assumptions that they do not.

I'll stick to trying to find out facts rather than look at a few seconds of video and jumping to conclusions...

Not sure why you think trying to provide the other side of an event to allow other readers (who aren't fixated on seeing racism everywhere) to gather a better understanding of both sides is being "cocky"...Is this a re-definition that I was unaware of?