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03 May 2020, 1:28 am

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It's worth mentioning that in the UK story that Most of the children affected have Kawasaki disease, a rare vascular condition that is the main cause of acquired heart disease in under-18s.

A high proportion of children globally requiring ICU in the last few months are comorbid with other respiratory or medical conditions which already mean't they should have been kept under lockdown away from other people.


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“There is a growing concern that a Sars-CoV-2-related inflammatory syndrome is emerging in children in the UK, or that there may be another, as yet unidentified, infectious pathogen associated with these cases.”


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03 May 2020, 1:57 am

Of the 1391 children tested and confirmed with SARS-COVID-19 in China since January 28th - March 10 only 3 patients required intensive care support and invasive mechanical ventilation; all had coexisting conditions (hydronephrosis, leukemia [for which the patient was receiving maintenance chemotherapy], and intussusception).

Published in the New England Journal of Medicine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2005073



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03 May 2020, 2:21 am

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Of the 1391 children tested and confirmed with SARS-COVID-19 in China since January 28th - March 10 only 3 patients required intensive care support and invasive mechanical ventilation; all had coexisting conditions (hydronephrosis, leukemia [for which the patient was receiving maintenance chemotherapy], and intussusception).

Published in the New England Journal of Medicine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2005073


Coronavirus might have mutated since China. Professionals think there probably is some sort of like or causation. And COVID-19 patients are seemingly getting unexpected symptoms all the time. And antidotely most of the quotes from health care workers in the local media are saying some version of we have never seen anything like this. We don't know It might be all coincidence but I doubt it.

And we should be careful with Chinese data.


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03 May 2020, 2:45 am

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And we should be careful with Chinese data.


Agreed but that's all the research we have to rely on....



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03 May 2020, 4:50 am

The creators of that animation forgot to include the funniest part:

The Chinese government trying to convince the world that the country where the virus originated—home to 1.5 billion people—suffered less casualties than Belgium with 11.5 million people.



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03 May 2020, 8:56 am

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The creators of that animation forgot to include the funniest part:

The Chinese government trying to convince the world that the country where the virus originated—home to 1.5 billion people—suffered less casualties than Belgium with 11.5 million people.


Definitely an anomaly! Makes one believe China is not being totally transparent, but rather focused on a major PR blitz.


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03 May 2020, 9:51 am

Here is a guy. His name is Ken Turnage II. He has a friendly smile. But what is inside defines the man.

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IMHO, he seems to be a little lacking in "the compassion for the fellow man" department. As a result, he lost one of his jobs.

A Northern California city has canned its planning commission chairman after he sparked outrage by asserting that sick, old and homeless people should be left to meet their “natural course in nature” during the coronavirus pandemic.

The City Council in Antioch, 45 miles east of San Francisco, removed Ken Turnage II from his appointed post at a video public meeting Friday night.

Turnage, an Antioch developer, created an uproar after characterizing people with weak immune systems as a drain on society.

He wrote on Facebook: “the World has been introduced to a new phrase Herd Immunity which is a good one. In my opinion we need to adapt a Herd Mentality. A herd gathers it ranks, it allows the sick, the old, the injured to meet its natural course in nature.”

As for homeless people, he added that the virus would “fix what is a significant burden on our society and resources that can be used.”

During the meeting, he told the City Council that his personal opinion had no bearing on his duties as a planning commissioner and that removing him would violate his freedom of speech.

The council voted 5-0 to oust Turnage, the station reported.

Source: California planning commissioner ousted after saying coronavirus can cull herd


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03 May 2020, 10:55 am

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What Coronavirus has brought to the fore is what we have known instinctively that ageism is vicious and rampant in America. In this era people will go nuts at any perceived bigotry towards many groups to the point that a “microagression” will get people, doxed, harassed and even fired. The old do not get that “love”. When it comes down to it if a choice has to be made the old will be sacrificed. The only difference now is that the coronavirus has given people license to be open about it albeit in that locale not that open for a public official. We did not need a pandemic to see this, a trip to most nursing homes during non visiting hours will suffice.

“Ok Boomer” was funny, “BoomerRemover” to describe COVID-19 less so. The latter gave an indication that in many cases there was a lot of bile behind the former. In fairness a lot of of this is the baby boom generations fault. When we were young the media told us how special we were, advertisers pandered to us and we ate it up, we bought it hook, line and sinker, we said don’t trust anybody over thirty. Many of us described our parents as “squares”, “out of touch”, more seriously as drones in service to “the establishment”. So yes schadenfreude is understandable and in some cases deserved, however this level of schadenfreude is evil.

The American baby boomers enhanced this a lot but it must be noted that ageism did not start with them nor is ageism unique to America, check out the Swedish approach to coronavirus. Americans have always prided themselves as being a youthful country, while other cultures tend to emphasize respecting elders.


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03 May 2020, 11:25 am

"BoomerRemover" - did it really gain popularity? That's awful! :x Do people really dehumanize their own parents that way?


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03 May 2020, 11:30 am

^ I'd expect they’re all inconsistently excluding their own family from the category, probably on a below conscious thought autopilot level.

But I may be too generous there.



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03 May 2020, 11:41 am

He lost ONE of his jobs? Maybe he can be rehired in China.

That's the most disgusting story I've ever read here.

The disposable generation will pay his pension and fought his wars. This is especially vile before VE Day.


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03 May 2020, 12:02 pm

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What Coronavirus has brought to the fore is what we have known instinctively that ageism is vicious and rampant in America. In this era people will go nuts at any perceived bigotry towards many groups to the point that a “microagression” will get people, doxed, harassed and even fired. The old do not get that “love”. When it comes down to it if a choice has to be made the old will be sacrificed. The only difference now is that the coronavirus has given people license to be open about it albeit in that locale not that open for a public official. We did not need a pandemic to see this, a trip to most nursing homes during non visiting hours will suffice.

“Ok Boomer” was funny, “BoomerRemover” to describe COVID-19 less so. The latter gave an indication that in many cases there was a lot of bile behind the former. In fairness a lot of of this is the baby boom generations fault. When we were young the media told us how special we were, advertisers pandered to us and we ate it up, we bought it hook, line and sinker, we said don’t trust anybody over thirty. Many of us described our parents as “squares”, “out of touch”, more seriously as drones in service to “the establishment”. So yes schadenfreude is understandable and in some cases deserved, however this level of schadenfreude is evil.

The American baby boomers enhanced this a lot but it must be noted that ageism did not start with them nor is ageism unique to America, check out the Swedish approach to coronavirus. Americans have always prided themselves as being a youthful country, while other cultures tend to emphasize respecting elders.


I have seen this in the chemistry department that I work at. The majority of the members there are now in their 30s. They have absolutely no respect for anyone older than them. I am in my mid 40s, yet am considered disposable because of my age to them. They have actively tried to get rid of tenured professors in their 60s, as they see them as “taking up space”, their words, not mine. One actually said that the virus is a good thing as it will get rid of old people. I am waiting for the right time to go to HR with that one.



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03 May 2020, 6:44 pm

I've been a little amazed by the number of people I've seen walking around with a mask over their mouth but not over their nose. Fits into the "Unclear on the concept" category. 8O


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03 May 2020, 7:39 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
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What Coronavirus has brought to the fore is what we have known instinctively that ageism is vicious and rampant in America. In this era people will go nuts at any perceived bigotry towards many groups to the point that a “microagression” will get people, doxed, harassed and even fired. The old do not get that “love”. When it comes down to it if a choice has to be made the old will be sacrificed. The only difference now is that the coronavirus has given people license to be open about it albeit in that locale not that open for a public official. We did not need a pandemic to see this, a trip to most nursing homes during non visiting hours will suffice.

“Ok Boomer” was funny, “BoomerRemover” to describe COVID-19 less so. The latter gave an indication that in many cases there was a lot of bile behind the former. In fairness a lot of of this is the baby boom generations fault. When we were young the media told us how special we were, advertisers pandered to us and we ate it up, we bought it hook, line and sinker, we said don’t trust anybody over thirty. Many of us described our parents as “squares”, “out of touch”, more seriously as drones in service to “the establishment”. So yes schadenfreude is understandable and in some cases deserved, however this level of schadenfreude is evil.

The American baby boomers enhanced this a lot but it must be noted that ageism did not start with them nor is ageism unique to America, check out the Swedish approach to coronavirus. Americans have always prided themselves as being a youthful country, while other cultures tend to emphasize respecting elders.


It provides a balance between sacrifices for the boomers and risks for older folk.



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03 May 2020, 7:40 pm

Navy hospital ships, once thought critical, see few patients

About a month ago, with Los Angeles girding for a potentially crippling surge of coronavirus cases, a massive white Navy hospital ship chugged into port: a powerful symbol of the government's response to the pandemic.

The USNS Mercy, with 1,000 hospital beds and giant red crosses on its sides, was welcomed by California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Mayor Eric Garcetti. Both officials were making grim predictions that LA could soon look like New York City, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak, and Garcetti noted the ship immediately became his city’s largest hospital....

Ultimately, Los Angeles hasn’t been overrun with virus cases, and so the Mercy has not had to play its envisioned role of being a safety net in order to allow hospitals to focus on treating those infected with the virus.

The Mercy is not alone: As virus infections have slowed or fell short of worst-case predictions, the globe is dotted with unused or barely used temporary hospitals. The Navy’s other hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, left New York on Thursday as the outlook improves there. It treated 182 patients.

Since arriving at the end of March, the Mercy has treated just over 70 non-coronavirus patients for everything from heart and lung conditions to gastrointestinal problems. On Thursday, it had just nine patients on board. Its 750 medical crew members cycle through to provide treatment but otherwise are staying at local hotels to avoid another outbreak.


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