Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-c ... 54249.html
Trump says lots of foolish things that are out-of-hand rejected by experts in the field. Does every single one of those need reported, isn't his disinformation ubiquitous enough already?
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-c ... 54249.html
Trump says lots of foolish things that are out-of-hand rejected by experts in the field. Does every single one of those need reported, isn't his disinformation ubiquitous enough already?

Given we know NY was ground zero for the spread of COVID-19 across the rest of America (not the first time NY was ground zero for a catastrophe) then who is more responsible for inaction? Trump or Cuomo or both?
Parents cannot do that. Its impossible esp 1 parent alone. Trained teachers studied n have years of expérience there's no way its an adequate replacement to have parents try abd do activities online or watch some videos every day. And social contact....
Actually, my kids - especially the Special Needs One - are more than happy not to go to school, even if they have to do regular schoolwork at home (schools work remotely here).
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Americans Didn’t Wait For Their Governors To Tell Them To Stay Home Because Of COVID-19
A favorite new debate taking place around the Twitter hearth is whether complying with social distancing guidelines is a partisan statement in and of itself. Blue states, such as Washington and New York, were initially hit hardest by the COVID-19 crisis, and stay-at-home orders went into effect as early as March 19 (California was first out of the gate). A number of red states have refrained from implementing such public-safety orders, and many Republican-leaning states, particularly in the South, didn’t issue orders for weeks afterward — as late as April 3 in Florida and Georgia. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis waffled over closing the state but eventually did so under pressure from state lawmakers.
But, at least on the front end of this crisis, Americans weren’t deciding what to do based on politics. Americans living in red states appear to have taken the crisis plenty seriously; data shows that residents there were staying home well before their governors issued stay-at-home orders.
Cuebiq, a private data company, assessed the movement of people via GPS-enabled mobile devices across the U.S.1 If you look at movement data in a cross-section of states President Trump won in the southeast in 2016 — Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Kentucky — 23 percent of people were staying home on average during the first week of March. That proportion jumped to 47 percent a month later across these six states.
If defying social distancing orders were really a political statement, you’d think that the southeast would be a hotbed for dissent. Yet people in the six states we examined changed their behavior around mid-March, before the states’ official stay-at-home orders. In fact, about 90 percent of the total change between early March and mid-April had occurred in the week before the stay-at-home orders were passed in each state.
That’s more or less in line with the country at large
Almost uniformly across these states, people started staying home beginning on March 14. The percentage of people staying home rose rapidly over the following nine days and tended to plateau by March 23.
The Cuebiq data suggests that behavioral changes were largely driven by people making a voluntary choice to stay home rather than being forced to do so by a state-sanctioned stay-at-home order. One need only look at the behavior of residents in North Carolina and their neighbors in South Carolina: While North Carolina issued a stay-at-home order eight days before South Carolina, a stabilized number of people in both states started staying at home about a week before North Carolina’s order.
Why did people begin to stay at home so early? In mid-March, the seriousness of the virus had begun to permeate the national and international conversation. On March 9, the Dow dropped to its lowest point since the 2008 financial crisis. Earlier that same day, Italy announced a nationwide lockdown. On March 11, the NBA announced that it would suspend its season indefinitely, a sign to many Americans that the pandemic would indeed change all facets of life, and on March 12, the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a pandemic. Some of the earliest official actions in the U.S. occurred around that time in the state of Washington, when Gov. Jay Inslee announced on March 11 a ban in three counties on gatherings of more than 250 people and public schools in Seattle also announced they would close. Many other U.S. cities closed schools, restaurants and bars in rapid succession around March 16.
This sort of mass behavioral change in such a short time is significant. It took over 50 years and hundreds of billions of dollars in prevention efforts to lower the percentage of people who smoke in the U.S. from 42 percent in 1965 to 13 percent in 2018. Americans reacted to the threat of COVID-19 in a relative blink of an eye.
The question that now looms, of course, is whether Americans’ individual behavioral changes will last as the pandemic wears on and the summer sun beckons. We’ll be watching movement data to get a sense of how quickly we will return to normal — or at least how quickly we establish a new normal.
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EYE PROTECTION: TO WEAR OR NOT WEAR
I remember very early on in this thread the subject of protective eyewear was debated. Some were for it while others thought it was foolish. So there was a research study reported today that showed eyes as being a major infection point.
From my perspective, there are three main routes of infection. [The first is large moist mucus droplets. The second is fine moist droplets. The third is droplets that dry out in low humidity environments that become extremely light weight and float through the air. They find moisture either in the throat or on the eyes and replicate and infect individuals.] So eye protections, such as wearing safety glasses or face shield can be an import measure for controlling the spread of this virus.
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The eyes are a key point of infection for the novel coronavirus, a team of Hong Kong researchers said this week, detailing how the disease has higher rates of transmissibility through the eyes and airways when compared to H5N1, or the bird flu, and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).
SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes a COVID-19 infection, is nearly 100 times more effective at infecting the human conjunctiva -- a thin, clear tissue covering the eyeball and inner surface of the eyelids -- and upper respiratory airways than SARS, Dr. Michael Chan Chi-wai, who led the research team at Hong Kong University’s School of Public Health, told the South China Morning Post. The team's findings were published in the most recent issue of The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.
“We culture tissues from the human respiratory tract and eyes in the laboratory and applied them to study the SARS-Cov-2, comparing it with SARS and H5N1. We found that SARS-Cov-2 is much more efficient in infecting the human conjunctiva and the upper respiratory airways than SARS with virus level some 80 to 100 times higher,” Chan told the outlet. “This explains the higher transmissibility of COVID-19 than that of SARS. This study also highlights the fact that eyes may be an important route of SARS-CoV-2 human infection."
While SARS infected an estimated 8,000 people during the outbreak in the early 2000s, the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases to date approaches 4 million worldwide.
The news comes after Italy’s first coronavirus patient had detectable levels of virus genetic material in her eyes long after it cleared from her nose, according to a report published in the April 17 journal Annals of Internal Medicine. On the woman’s 27th day in the hospital, the virus’s genetic material was still detected through ocular swabs.
The Hong Kong team's findings highlight not only the importance of keeping your hands away from your face but also suggest a need for essential workers to wear protective eyewear, beyond just face masks and protective clothing, the South China Morning Post noted.
“Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advises in helping prevent a COVID-19 infection. The advice may prove more important than ever as warm spring weather brings seasonal allergies, stirring up itchy eyes.
Source: Coronavirus up to 100 times more infectious through eyes, airways than SARS: report
Probably two other points.
1. The title of the article is a little misleading. Notice the "comma" in the title. It is not just the eyes but also the airwaves (throat and nose) that are the infection points.
2. The last sentence of the article reads: "“Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advises in helping prevent a COVID-19 infection. The advice may prove more important than ever as warm spring weather brings seasonal allergies, stirring up itchy eyes." The desiccated viral particles seek moisture to rehydrate and infect. In Spring, as the humidity levels rise, the dehydrated viral particles will absorb the moisture from the air and the added weight will facilitate the particles falling to the ground.
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Experts at the Mechanical Science and Engineering University of Illinois have tested different common household fabrics.
They identified simple T-shirts as a potential material for homemade masks since they are made of breathable fabrics and are able to block droplets.
They also found that a two-layer mask made from new fabric that was a cotton-polyester mix works as well as a medical mask.
https://www.spring.org.uk/2020/05/mater ... 9-mask.php
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I remember very early on in this thread the subject of protective eyewear was debated. Some were for it while others thought it was foolish. So there was a research study reported today that showed eyes as being a major infection point.
From my perspective, there are three main routes of infection. [The first is large moist mucus droplets. The second is fine moist droplets. The third is droplets that dry out in low humidity environments that become extremely light weight and float through the air. They find moisture either in the throat or on the eyes and replicate and infect individuals.] So eye protections, such as wearing safety glasses or face shield can be an import measure for controlling the spread of this virus.
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The eyes are a key point of infection for the novel coronavirus, a team of Hong Kong researchers said this week, detailing how the disease has higher rates of transmissibility through the eyes and airways when compared to H5N1, or the bird flu, and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).
SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes a COVID-19 infection, is nearly 100 times more effective at infecting the human conjunctiva -- a thin, clear tissue covering the eyeball and inner surface of the eyelids -- and upper respiratory airways than SARS, Dr. Michael Chan Chi-wai, who led the research team at Hong Kong University’s School of Public Health, told the South China Morning Post. The team's findings were published in the most recent issue of The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.
“We culture tissues from the human respiratory tract and eyes in the laboratory and applied them to study the SARS-Cov-2, comparing it with SARS and H5N1. We found that SARS-Cov-2 is much more efficient in infecting the human conjunctiva and the upper respiratory airways than SARS with virus level some 80 to 100 times higher,” Chan told the outlet. “This explains the higher transmissibility of COVID-19 than that of SARS. This study also highlights the fact that eyes may be an important route of SARS-CoV-2 human infection."
While SARS infected an estimated 8,000 people during the outbreak in the early 2000s, the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases to date approaches 4 million worldwide.
The news comes after Italy’s first coronavirus patient had detectable levels of virus genetic material in her eyes long after it cleared from her nose, according to a report published in the April 17 journal Annals of Internal Medicine. On the woman’s 27th day in the hospital, the virus’s genetic material was still detected through ocular swabs.
The Hong Kong team's findings highlight not only the importance of keeping your hands away from your face but also suggest a need for essential workers to wear protective eyewear, beyond just face masks and protective clothing, the South China Morning Post noted.
“Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advises in helping prevent a COVID-19 infection. The advice may prove more important than ever as warm spring weather brings seasonal allergies, stirring up itchy eyes.
Source: Coronavirus up to 100 times more infectious through eyes, airways than SARS: report
Probably two other points.
1. The title of the article is a little misleading. Notice the "comma" in the title. It is not just the eyes but also the airwaves (throat and nose) that are the infection points.
2. The last sentence of the article reads: "“Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advises in helping prevent a COVID-19 infection. The advice may prove more important than ever as warm spring weather brings seasonal allergies, stirring up itchy eyes." The desiccated viral particles seek moisture to rehydrate and infect. In Spring, as the humidity levels rise, the dehydrated viral particles will absorb the moisture from the air and the added weight will facilitate the particles falling to the ground.
When I went to visit my sister last weekend,
she wouldn't let me leave her house without wearing not only the medical face mask (I got a really good one from Korea that uses microfibre from T&T, but 6 dollars per mask.) but also the face visor.
She said the same thing.
She got a bunch of extra masks too, from the hospital she works at, so she gave me some to use and distribute among nurses.
Nurses and PSWs are not given much as I mentioned earlier...
The government also sent us several plastic goggles among other equipment when this began.
So that makes sense.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-c ... 54249.html
Trump says lots of foolish things that are out-of-hand rejected by experts in the field. Does every single one of those need reported, isn't his disinformation ubiquitous enough already?

Given we know NY was ground zero for the spread of COVID-19 across the rest of America (not the first time NY was ground zero for a catastrophe) then who is more responsible for inaction? Trump or Cuomo or both?
I'd say blame likely falls on all three levels of government and some is shared due to their general unwillingness to do anything that might give 'the other guy' something he can spin positively. That said, I believe Cuomo has been more effective than Trump even if he's not someone I'd like to sound as though I'm openly endorsing. For a sports metaphor, think of it as Cuomo still has a win percentage below .500, but Trump's record makes the second worst team in the league look good.
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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
The spread of COVID-19 has shown up some serious problems with leadership regardless of political persuasion. However, I think Cuomo at least hasn't been telling his constituents to inject themselves with Lysol.
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The victims include a 5-year-old in New York City, a 7-year-old in Westchester County, and a teenager in Suffolk County.
The New York State Department of Health is investigating at least 73 reported cases in New York where predominantly school-aged children are experiencing symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease and toxic-shock like syndrome, possibly due to COVID-19, the governor's office said Saturday.
These symptoms include persistent fever, rash, abdominal pain, vomiting or diarrhea, and "cardiovascular symptoms" that require intensive care.
Cuomo said that the CDC has asked New York to "develop a national criteria for this illness." The state's health department is also working with the NY Genome Center and Rockefeller University to conduct a study to help better understand the illness.
"This is a frightening new development, but rest assured we are doing everything we can to learn more and keep parents informed," Cuomo said in a statement.
While state and global health officials have said that this illness is rare, the Department of Health released a May 6 advisory for hospitals, healthcare providers, and labs about a "pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome potentially associated with COVID-19" for those under the age of 21.
Cuomo cautioned parents to look out for symptoms of the illness and to "seek help immediately if your child is sick."
The Kawasaki disease-like symptoms "may occur days to weeks after acute COVID-19 illness," the governor's office said. It affects primarily toddler to elementary school-age children.
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The victims include a 5-year-old in New York City, a 7-year-old in Westchester County, and a teenager in Suffolk County.
The New York State Department of Health is investigating at least 73 reported cases in New York where predominantly school-aged children are experiencing symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease and toxic-shock like syndrome, possibly due to COVID-19, the governor's office said Saturday.
These symptoms include persistent fever, rash, abdominal pain, vomiting or diarrhea, and "cardiovascular symptoms" that require intensive care.
Cuomo said that the CDC has asked New York to "develop a national criteria for this illness." The state's health department is also working with the NY Genome Center and Rockefeller University to conduct a study to help better understand the illness.
"This is a frightening new development, but rest assured we are doing everything we can to learn more and keep parents informed," Cuomo said in a statement.
While state and global health officials have said that this illness is rare, the Department of Health released a May 6 advisory for hospitals, healthcare providers, and labs about a "pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome potentially associated with COVID-19" for those under the age of 21.
Cuomo cautioned parents to look out for symptoms of the illness and to "seek help immediately if your child is sick."
The Kawasaki disease-like symptoms "may occur days to weeks after acute COVID-19 illness," the governor's office said. It affects primarily toddler to elementary school-age children.
This story already did the rounds AS....the three children may have had predisposition - the cause of Kawasaki disease remains unknown. It is most likely an abnormal response by the immune system of some children to a common germ (e.g. COVID-19). Kawasaki disease is not contagious to other children and is likely genetic.
CORONAVIRUS EYES
Last night just before the crack of dawn, jimmy m. was racing around the track in his go-kart at almost light speed. Then he saw a shinny object dangling from the air. Morning was upon me and the rays of the sun had almost peaked through the window shades. So I reached out and grabbed it as I drove by. It was a strange object. Took a long time to figure out what it was. It wasn't intuitively obvious. But now I understand.
To describe this object, I have to tell a short story. I am near-sighted and as a result I wear glasses. Almost blind as a bat without them. Around 20-30 years ago, I developed a strange problem. Many times during the day, my glasses would become dirty. I inspected them and saw small round dried opaque spots on the inside of the glasses. This became a nuisance because I might clean my glasses and within two minutes they might be spotted again. My eyes were literally erupting like miniature volcanoes.
So the next time I visited my eye doctor (optometrist) I explained my difficulty. I saw a crack of a smile appear on his face. He said, "I know what the problem is and how to fix it". He said that the eyelids contain many little tear ducts that squirt a fine mist of tears to clean and lubricate the eyes. These ducts can become clogged and need to be periodically cleaned. He recommended that I use a product called Ocusoft Lid Scrub and clean my eyelids once or twice each day. He said, "Or you might find a very fine cloth and put on a drop of 'No More Tears Baby Shampoo' since that is essentially what the lid scrubs are and it will do the same thing." [Why does this shampoo not produce a howl-inducing sting as it splashes into a baby's eyes? The "no tears" formula contains all the eye-stinging chemicals as adult shampoos, plus a desensitizing agent -- Novocain, lidocaine -- to numb the eyes.] Well I bought a box of Ocusoft Lid Scrubs and gently wash my eyelids and eruptions ceases. Problem solved. And I have been using this product ever since.![]()
Now yesterday, I posted on this thread that the coronavirus had been detected on the eyes of several individuals and might be a route of transmission. Ocusoft description reads "effectively removes oil, debris, pollen and desquamated skin that may contribute to eye irritation." [So now unwrapping this shinny gold object that jimmy m. found dangling from the sky.] What is the advise from the health experts on preventing coronavirus transmission? "Wash your hands with soap and water." Soap and water kill (deactivates) the virus. Shampoo is a type of soap. So by using this product every day [at least theoretically], I am destroying any coronavirus that should find its way into my eyes.
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