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10 May 2020, 10:27 am

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That makes me wonder about using a Neti pot to flush out sinuses.Maybe a good idea to do after a town trip.Sterile water of course.


A neti pot is a popular home-based treatment for nasal congestion. If you’re experiencing upper respiratory congestion or recovering from nasal surgery, you can buy a neti pot and use a store-bought or homemade solution to irrigate your nostrils. This procedure can clear out mucus and temporarily restore ease of breathing.

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One of the routes of infections is through the nose. Flushing out the nostrils using a Neti pot seems to make sense. It should reduce the viral load in the nasal cavities - flush the coronaviruses away.


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10 May 2020, 5:33 pm

Map of US per capita covid deaths: http://covid19mapped.com/United_States_ ... apita.html

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10 May 2020, 5:40 pm

It would be great if they labelled the states, because I have no clue for most of them. ^

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Which one is the squarish darkest pink one, kind of above Texas?


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10 May 2020, 5:45 pm

That’s Colorado.



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10 May 2020, 5:52 pm

Really? I actually thought Colorado was farther north, because of the Rockies. I thought maybe it was the next one up.

Whoops.

I was actually absent from school because of pneumonia, for the span of time when they taught US Geography.


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10 May 2020, 6:04 pm

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It would be great if they labelled the states, because I have no clue for most of them. ^

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Which one is the squarish darkest pink one, kind of above Texas?

If you hover or click on each state it should show you the name and actual numbers. (Does on my laptop anyway.)


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10 May 2020, 6:05 pm

^

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Sure, make me look stupid.


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10 May 2020, 6:31 pm

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Whoops.

I was actually absent from school because of pneumonia, for the span of time when they taught US Geography.

Really no reason for you to remember the names of these former colonies. They've been in decline ever since they left the Empire.


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10 May 2020, 7:25 pm

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Three Children In New York Have Died Of A Mysterious Inflammatory Disease Potentially Linked To COVID-19
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Three children in New York have died of a mysterious inflammatory illness that may be related to COVID-19, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday.

The victims include a 5-year-old in New York City, a 7-year-old in Westchester County, and a teenager in Suffolk County.

The New York State Department of Health is investigating at least 73 reported cases in New York where predominantly school-aged children are experiencing symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease and toxic-shock like syndrome, possibly due to COVID-19, the governor's office said Saturday.

These symptoms include persistent fever, rash, abdominal pain, vomiting or diarrhea, and "cardiovascular symptoms" that require intensive care.

Cuomo said that the CDC has asked New York to "develop a national criteria for this illness." The state's health department is also working with the NY Genome Center and Rockefeller University to conduct a study to help better understand the illness.

"This is a frightening new development, but rest assured we are doing everything we can to learn more and keep parents informed," Cuomo said in a statement.

While state and global health officials have said that this illness is rare, the Department of Health released a May 6 advisory for hospitals, healthcare providers, and labs about a "pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome potentially associated with COVID-19" for those under the age of 21.

Cuomo cautioned parents to look out for symptoms of the illness and to "seek help immediately if your child is sick."

The Kawasaki disease-like symptoms "may occur days to weeks after acute COVID-19 illness," the governor's office said. It affects primarily toddler to elementary school-age children.


This story already did the rounds AS....the three children may have had predisposition - the cause of Kawasaki disease remains unknown. It is most likely an abnormal response by the immune system of some children to a common germ (e.g. COVID-19). Kawasaki disease is not contagious to other children and is likely genetic.

That these cases are Kawasaki disease is an assumption. It might be a disease that has similar traits. Not much is known except the symptoms at this point.
State probes 2 more children's deaths for coronavirus link
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State health officials are investigating the deaths of two children to see if they had a coronavirus-linked illness that has claimed the lives of at least three other youngsters, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said Sunday.

Hospitals in New York have reported 85 cases of the illness, known as pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome.

State Health Commissioner Howard Zucker said a team of health experts will evaluate the information for each of those cases.

The disease causes inflammation of the blood vessels and complications that can include inflamed heart muscles and breathing problems, experts said.

Most of the sickened children either tested positive for the coronavirus or for antibodies to the virus, officials said. Similar cases have emerged in Europe.

Symptoms include fever, rash and severe abdominal pain.

“These children did not present with respiratory illnesses,” Zucker said, referring to the common symptoms of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. “We are trying to figure out what is happening … the CDC is sending up people as well.”

Cuomo said New York officials are reaching out to other states to see if they have similar cases.

“Nobody knows that it wasn’t here and just not diagnosed because it doesn’t look like a COVID case,” Cuomo said.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said 38 cases of the syndrome have been diagnosed in New York City, and an additional nine are being reviewed.

“What it does is, basically in a child’s body, triggers intensive, almost overwhelming immune system response and that actually causes harm to the body,” the mayor said Sunday morning at his daily COVID-19 briefing.

The city identified the syndrome just in the past few days, de Blasio said. Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot said the syndrome was first identified in Britain two or three weeks ago.

“We are still learning how it manifests,” Barbot said.


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10 May 2020, 8:07 pm

I know this isn't totally relevant, but a friend of my family had a little boy in the 90s. He was about two years old and totally fine until they had new carpet installed, or cleaned, or something like that. Within 24-48 hours he was deathly sick on a ventilator and not expected to survive the night because of damage to his heart. After a long battery of tests he was diagnosed with Kawasaki. I've lost touch with him but for at least 20 years he was in and out of critical care because of this disease. It was always touch and go whether he'd survive until adulthood. Kawasaki was believed to be contracted by exposure to the vapours of carpet cleaning (installation?) chemicals. Little toddlers who were crawling and spending their time close to carpets were susceptible to this rare disease.

It caught my eye when I kept seeing the word in relation to Coronavirus. I just googled to see if there still a theory about Kawasaki and new rugs. I still see reference to carpets, but there are more theories now about how it originates. Of course this has nothing to do with its manifestation via Coronavirus, but it's very odd that so many cases are popping up now in places which are C19 hotbeds.

Just rambling!


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10 May 2020, 9:37 pm

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That makes me wonder about using a Neti pot to flush out sinuses.Maybe a good idea to do after a town trip.Sterile water of course.

better off with saline. doc told me that sterile water was hypotonic/harmful to cells.



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10 May 2020, 10:42 pm

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“These children did not present with respiratory illnesses,” Zucker said, referring to the common symptoms of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. “We are trying to figure out what is happening … the CDC is sending up people as well.


Interestingly the symptoms don't correspond with COVID-19

There are actually diseases that kill children every year that are poorly understood in terms of their transmission/aetiology - classic is Lyme disease which is thought to be from ticks. These "other' illnesses are statistical "noise" which might be conflating/elevating the risk COVID-19 poses for children.



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11 May 2020, 1:01 am

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“These children did not present with respiratory illnesses,” Zucker said, referring to the common symptoms of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. “We are trying to figure out what is happening … the CDC is sending up people as well.


Interestingly the symptoms don't correspond with COVID-19

There are actually diseases that kill children every year that are poorly understood in terms of their transmission/aetiology - classic is Lyme disease which is thought to be from ticks. These "other' illnesses are statistical "noise" which might be conflating/elevating the risk COVID-19 poses for children.

There are some patients with diarrhea but no other symptoms. Is COVID-19 a respiratory illness that is being over diagnosed because it is the disease of the week or has COVID-19 always a full body virus that was initially mistaken for a respiratory disease?

All this uncertainty means it is going to be very difficult to solve the reopen vs continue the lockdown controversy.


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Given we know NY was ground zero for the spread of COVID-19 across the rest of America


i thought that was seattle.


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11 May 2020, 3:59 am

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