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15 May 2020, 3:43 pm

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It could be way up north.

Trust me.....you would want to be in the north during the summer :)

The average maximum temperature in July is 30 Celsius.

From what I heard about Toronto, you would like to be even further away north during the summer ;)


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15 May 2020, 3:44 pm

I would agree with that....yes :)

Though Toronto can be hot and humid, too.



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15 May 2020, 4:00 pm

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On a New York highway: "Cuomo killed my mom"

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I tried to locate the source of the photo. Apparently it was hung out on a highway overpass in Upstate New York on Mother's Day. That would put it on 10 May.

This photograph is "A red-belled woodpecker was spotted May 4, 2020 in Grand Island [in Erie County, New York - the west side of the state which is significantly colder than New York City.] As you can see, the trees were not budded out a week earlier.

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The article that included the photograph stated:

Many New Yorkers are ushering in a grim Mother’s Day amid accusations that Democrat Governor Andrew “Cuomo killed my mom” thanks to his deadly policy that forced nursing homes to admit coronavirus patients.

The bone-headed move resulted in the deaths of thousands of senior citizens living in nursing homes.

In March, Cuomo mandated that nursing homes must accept coronavirus patients even though older people are the most at-risk to die from COVID-19. Making matters worse was the fact that nursing homes did not have personal protective equipment or COVID testing capability.

Shockingly, the mainstream media not only gave Cuomo a pass on the scandal, but lionized him as a hero.

A Twitter user shared a heartbreaking photo of a bed sheet hanging off a highway overpass in Upstate New York. The ominous words “Cuomo Killed My Mom” were scrawled in red across the sheet.

Elaine Mazzotta is a nurse whose mother died last month at a Long Island nursing home. She says Cuomo’s inane decision accelerated the outbreaks of coronavirus in nursing homes, which have proven to be breeding grounds for infectious diseases.

The way this has been handled by the state is totally irresponsible, negligent and stupid,” Mazzotta told the AP. “They knew better. They shouldn’t have sent these [COVID-infected] people into nursing homes.”

Source: Giant ‘Cuomo killed my mom’ sign erected on bridge as heartbroken New Yorkers grieve on Mother’s Day


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15 May 2020, 7:32 pm

J.C. Penney files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, plans some permanent store closings

J.C. Penney, reeling from a one-two punch of the department store industry’s struggles and the coronavirus pandemic, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Friday.

The company, which had racked up an unsustainable amount of debt in recent years, plans to close an unspecified number of stores permanently in a bid to survive bankruptcy. The retailer had 845 stores at the end of 2019, according to real estate data source CoStar Portfolio Strategy.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 057838001/


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15 May 2020, 8:02 pm

We got just an email from management saying that the building will remain closed until they can obtain adequate Personal Protection Equipment for the employees. They are having difficulty. Most of us are working from home until then.

I wonder how long it will be before someone can see the POTUS without having to take a Coronavirus screening test?



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15 May 2020, 10:05 pm

I would think HVAC systems would be a problem.

Air flow can infect people far away.


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15 May 2020, 10:08 pm

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We got just an email from management saying that the building will remain closed until they can obtain adequate Personal Protection Equipment for the employees. They are having difficulty. Most of us are working from home until then.


What kind of building are you referring to? I was in Menard's Building Supply Co. a couple days ago. They had a sign as you entered that said no one is admitted into the store unless they wear a face mask. But on the other hand, they also offered to sell a face mask for $1 to anyone who entered the store and didn't have one. Seems reasonable.

So I suspect that face mask are probably available at this time. Many stores are carrying hand sanitizing gel. It may be off brand but probably still a good substitute. So I wonder what PPE management was referring to. So unless the building was a hospital, nursing home or some other facility that required N95 mask, I find inability to obtain PPE to be a strange excuse at the moment. [But then again, I do not know where you live.]


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15 May 2020, 10:42 pm

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I would think HVAC systems would be a problem. Air flow can infect people far away.


I would agree with that. But there is a simple fix for that. Install UVC sanitizers in the HVAC ductwork. They have been on the market for years now. The UVC technology was discussed in page 52 of this thread on 7 March.

But you are right, the latest research on the coronavirus indicated the coronavirus can be transmitted in HVAC systems.


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16 May 2020, 1:39 am

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I would think HVAC systems would be a problem.

Air flow can infect people far away.


i hadn't even considered that. that's scary


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16 May 2020, 4:37 am

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Magna wrote:
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i for one, do NOT want 80% of humanity to get this mess to establish "herd immunity" if such an outcome can at all be avoided.


I agree with you. Let's make a pact not to point fingers at anyone when the global economy tanks as a result. We cain't have it both ways:

Option 1: Keep going with the lock downs but the economies tank.
Option 2: Ease up or stop the lock downs to keep the economy going but more people get sick and die.

Having no vaccine, no proven and effective treatment and not even knowing if the virus remains incurably permanent in those who get it leads me to favor Option 1.


But what if people lose jobs and die from hunger?


Suicide is a major concern, here in Australia,
But there are no stats to support an increase due to financial difficulties, atm, thank fully.



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16 May 2020, 4:41 am

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if a vaccine is developed for this, it will be the first time a vaccine has been developed for any coronavirus.


A massive amount of research is going into creating a vaccine for the CV.
I don't think this happened, to this degree previously, post the Manhattan Project.



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16 May 2020, 4:49 am

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Predicting future is extremely difficult, the more distant future, the harder it is.


That is just blatant rubbish.
True, they can't accurately predict the weather in a week's time,
BUT, they *can* determine a climactic climatic catastrophe in 12 years from now! 8O :mrgreen:

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Even today, it can be quite difficult to predict the weather three days from now.

We predicted, around the time of the Moon missions, that we would land on Mars around 1985.

I doubt, in 1985, that we could conceive that we would use a phone to pay bills or deposit checks in banking accounts.


Indubitably. 8)



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16 May 2020, 4:54 am

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CHINA THREATENS THE UNITED STATES

China's state-run media targeted congressional Republicans on Thursday for their outspoken stance against the nation's government and their condemnation of the country's nefarious actions concerning the novel coronavirus outbreak.



The ccp is threatening Australia's economy big time because Morrison wants an investigation into the chinese pandemic.



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16 May 2020, 4:55 am

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This thread gets very deep very quickly. 8O but I am in awe of people's thoughtfulness here

Thank you.
I do have a very big brain. :mrgreen:



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16 May 2020, 5:00 am

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magz wrote:
... My impression is, the US economy is actually too centralized with its dependence on Wall Street and domination of big fish over small businesses.
My impression is that the U.S. economy is way too dependent on the travel, tourism, retail, hospitality, and entertainment industries.  In California (at least), the places that are clamoring for reopening are airlines, beach towns, restaurants, theaters, casinos, hotels, theme parks, and shopping malls -- these are the places affected most by the lack of people during quarantine.


Same applies to Australia.
We need to change the economic paradigm.
We need to diversify away from china, big time.