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How do you stop a landslide?

15,000 years ago sea level was 150 meters lower, and something happened. The rise was slow for a few thousand years, then from 13,000 to 10,000, it rose to near current levels. There were a few flat spots on the way up, and an 18 meter rise one summer.

Over the last few hundred years, where we have something to measure, such as docks, sea level has risen a foot every hundred years.

From 22,000 to 27,000 years ago sea level was seven meters higher. That is what you get when all the ice melts. People lived along the coast of the Arctic Ocean, above the Arctic Circle, in six months of day.

Over the last 10,000 years sea level has risen a fair steady foot a Century, for a total of 100 foot, 30 meters. There is only enough ice left to keep this up for 2,200 more years. Then we are back at peak sea level, in a warmer world, likely for five thousand years or longer.

This is old news in Geology.

I am sure humans are speeding it up, But just like slowing it down, nothing changes the direction.

So Al Gore discovered that sea level was rising. It may be true that the foot in a hundred years rate speeds up at the end, warmer world, less ice, maybe a meter, and only seven hundred years till all the ice is gone.

So everyone should panic. Think of the beach houses! Also, 90% of Florida will sink beneath the waves. Just inland, across the Gulf Coast, is the old beach line from 25,000 years ago, it has long been used as a road.

13,000 years ago the beach line was several hundred miles offshore. It ended in a cliff, the Gulf far below, great view, good breeze, but those beach houses were doomed.

Methane is a bigger greenhouse gas, and the Mammoth Fart view fell out of favor, as them dying off did not change things. The permafrost melting does release huge amounts of Methane. It is a much greater cause of warming than the CO2 produced to generate electric power.

The slaughter of 90,000,000 buffalo for farting did not change the climate.

Taxing utilities will not affect climate change. It could pay for a new series of beach houses.

Sea level will continue to rise till all the ice melts, It may be 700 years, it may be 2,200, it will happen.

The air will become more dynamic, heat and moisture does that.

Where I live will become open Gulf, Florida is a goner.

I am not willing to give up anything to slow down a planet. I think it early to buy up the old high beach line.

As someone who doubts our system will last a decade, that most of the human species will last past mid century, I look to the short term.

I expect emissions to reach zero, that will not change the climate. It will not come from good intentions, it will come because we are broke.

What you do is decrease greenhouse gas emissions. That would keep the glaciers cooler, longer. The rate they are melting could affect the oceanic currents enough to cause serious temperature shifts.
That is how you stop the landslide.

nice list inventor

to add that, in terms of the recent flooding, all the trees we have cut down in the last couple 100 years could have come in really handy for absorbing all that rain water.

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to borrow a turn-of-phrase from ross perot, overpopulation is the crazy aunt in the basement that nobody wants to talk about.

Growing crops is what feeds people, not industry. The truth is, there is plenty of food. No one on this planet should ever go hungry. When crops get destroyed to keep the price of grains and other crops high, people go hungry. It's bad management that's the problem. We don't need industrialization of the planet to "feed people." People were eating before the industrial age...
Globally, we have a choice whether to release carbon dioxide or not. If Asia decides to release more, and, if acute climate change is occurring because of excess CO2 due to industrialization, they won't be able to grow as many crops to feed their people as they can now. Those of us in North America won't be able to, either.
If the global scientists are right, we can expect some dramatic shifts in climate in the next twenty years. It seems so abstract, but the effects will be devastating. Once it gets to the point the ice age is beginning, we won't be able to do much to reverse it, as a cycle of weather will occur due to the expansion of glaciers. We will just be stuck with it until someone figures out a way to reverse it.
Only time will tell who is making the correct prediction. By then, it could be too late, though.

Completely agree with the last 3 people.

the chemicals are coating onto the soil and plants is messing everything up. soil quality, rain water quality, yields, killing bees and who knows what else.

there has always been enough to go around but it is more profitable to create scarcity in this day and age.

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http://nation.foxnews.com/global-warmin ... -s-global-

I think this kind of sums up the situation.

well you know the world was a lot warmer when the dinosaurs roamed the earth. Maybe it's an elaborate plot first they bring back the mammoths then the dinosaurs and when the world hits the boiling point then the dinosaurs eat everyone...........

although actually I do think global climate change is a reality. The incidence of hurricanes increasing can be explained by the 20 yr active/inactive hurricane cycles. As for the siberian shelf that's something to consider but there are a lot of doomsday theories out there. Somewhere between hysteria and keeping one's head firmly in the ground therein lies the truth.

Planting trees is just my hobby. I like trees, so they are the answer to all problems.

Back to Geology, Climate Change, that thing between Ice Ages and Global Warming, is a known problem with a known cause.

In a word, Panama! Panama is a recent result of volcanic action, geologic recent. Before there was a Panama, the Earth had a long term stable climate for millions of years. A major warm current flowed through the gap, joined the Gulf Stream, and you could be killed by a hippopotus in London.

Only since this gap was filled has the earth had to suffer through ice ages, global warming, more ice, more heat, which is hard on trees, when they migrate, they march at about one foot a year.

The Pacific Ocean is eight foot higher than the Gulf, remove Panama, and the Gulf Stream becomes a jet, Europe in days. It was the dynamic that kept all the ocean currents moving.

The main two effects are it spreads the heat, and it stirs up the deep cold and rich water on the bottom of the oceans.

The area of livable climate grows, the oceans can support a lot more life, and they are most of the planet.

The Dinosaurs lived over a much larger area than we do. They lived in Canada, Alaska, Siberia. Being cold blooded and huge, they could only survive in very rich vegatation. Little Mammoths ate 600 pounds a day, and only weighed 15,000 pounds. A small herd of dinosaurs could knock back 100 tons a day, every day.

If you want a stable climate that produces, Panama must die!

If nothing is done it will get warmer, all the ice will melt, and the last three times sea level has been this high, it started snowing a Meter a day, for several thousand years, fifty kilometers of snow, that compacted to five kilometers of ice, and flowed outward.

Global Warming always ends in an Ice Age. Ice Ages end in major floods.

Removing Panama will double the habitable land area, and bring a new dynamic to the oceans. Replace it with a very large valve, The Thermostat, and the entire planet becomes climate controlled.

The last time it was open the Earth had a stable climate for millions of years.While some say warming, others cooling, both are true, and will give us less land fit to raise crops.

Remove Panama, and the heat of the topics will expand the temperate zone. Cooler tropics, a longer temperate growing season, warmer so that crops can be grown farther north, imagine golden wheat from the Urals to Hudson Bay.

The Arctic will survive, 22,000 to 27,000 years ago sea level was seven meters higher, people lived above the Arctic Circle, and the Polar Bears, Seals, Whales, all survived.

Do nothing, what is most likely, and most people die. Within a few thousand years the snow falling a meter a day, a wall of ice reaching from London to the Urals, and from Washington State to Saint Louis, to New York, Survivors driven to the tropics.

Right now we have long term unemployment in construction, the people and tools to install the valve.

Teddy took Panama from Columbia, Jimmy Carter gave it to Noriega, who is doing life somewhere, France now? It was drug profits and we have a right to take it back. The Darian Gap is useless for anything but drug running. The canal was finished in 1914, time for something new. La Palma near Columbia is less than fifty miles across.

Two miles wide, 100 foot deep, about two cubic miles of earth to move.

Besides climate control, it will connect the whales, who now use the Antarctic route.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... on-climate

Plenty of links within the article as well if you want to use the link instead.

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http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s ... al-warming

Aparently global warming now caused the riots in Egypt.