D'oh: 18% of Americans still believe vaccines cause autism

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14 Apr 2011, 3:45 pm

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Do a lot of people with Autism or Aspergers have children? Do you know of any?

Autism is not like blue eyes. It is not a boolean trait at all, and inheritance of it is not as simple as you seem to think. Engineers and other technical types (even when they are not autistic) very frequently have autistic children, as do plenty of other "normal" folks.


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14 Apr 2011, 5:19 pm

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Do a lot of people with Autism or Aspergers have children? Do you know of any?


I am AUTASPIC topic

You just got a lecture from one. :mrgreen:


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14 Apr 2011, 7:13 pm

Orwell wrote:
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40 percent of Americans believe the literal interpretation of Genesis.

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God help us all.


He has. 60 percent do not believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.

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14 Apr 2011, 8:08 pm

EDIT: Took out ad Hominem attack.


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14 Apr 2011, 9:55 pm

SaNcheNuSS, do youy have any evidence to back up your claims?



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14 Apr 2011, 10:21 pm

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If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.


You're inappropriately conflating "genetic" with "inherited".

Studies show that the probability of genetic defects increases with the age of the mother at the time of conception.

The last 70 years have seen a steady increase in the average age of pregnancy in women who live in developed countries. Largely attributed to women seeking education and career.

Do the math and tell me what you think.



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14 Apr 2011, 11:11 pm

This remind me about people telling me the down syndrome screening and blood work is what can give a child down syndrome. :roll: I am use to people putting conditions there children get on modern medicine. Hack some parents are already suing doctors for not knowing their unborn children have down syndrome. I assume some parents are going to start suing doctors for their kids autism. 8O



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15 Apr 2011, 7:45 am

ruveyn wrote:
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40 percent of Americans believe the literal interpretation of Genesis.

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God help us all.


He has. 60 percent do not believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.

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:thumleft: Praise Jesus!
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15 Apr 2011, 10:18 am

blauSamstag wrote:
SaNcheNuSS wrote:
If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.


You're inappropriately conflating "genetic" with "inherited".

Studies show that the probability of genetic defects increases with the age of the mother at the time of conception.

The last 70 years have seen a steady increase in the average age of pregnancy in women who live in developed countries. Largely attributed to women seeking education and career.

Do the math and tell me what you think.


Blame game topic

Of course. Now educated women are being blamed for having children with "genetic defects". A tidy and inaccurate kneejerk approach.

This is a variant on fridge moms, and maybe even tiger moms. No mention of dads, not that any one reason is a root cause.

Please see Orwell's post below about autism: (My bolding)
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Autism is not like blue eyes. It is not a boolean trait at all, and inheritance of it is not as simple as you seem to think. Engineers and other technical types (even when they are not autistic) very frequently have autistic children, as do plenty of other "normal" folks
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18 Apr 2011, 11:53 am

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.


You may be right. Maybe that is why there is more autism. Maybe people with autism are more superior in different ways that is why there is an increase. Many very brilliant people are autistic?

think about that



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18 Apr 2011, 12:06 pm

stamour wrote:
SaNcheNuSS wrote:
If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.


You may be right. Maybe that is why there is more autism. Maybe people with autism are more superior in different ways that is why there is an increase. Many very brilliant people are autistic?

think about that


I always thought there was a possibility that autism has a place in human society. That it's simply natural to have more diversity in which people's brains are wired.

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18 Apr 2011, 11:25 pm

sartresue wrote:
Blame game topic

Of course. Now educated women are being blamed for having children with "genetic defects". A tidy and inaccurate kneejerk approach.

This is a variant on fridge moms, and maybe even tiger moms. No mention of dads, not that any one reason is a root cause.



"Blame" is just a dirty word for "causal relationship".



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18 Apr 2011, 11:52 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
Studies show that the probability of genetic defects increases with the age of the mother at the time of conception.

The last 70 years have seen a steady increase in the average age of pregnancy in women who live in developed countries. Largely attributed to women seeking education and career.

Do the math and tell me what you think.


Do you actually have point - beside blaming genetic defects on women's desire to get an education and not leech off men?


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19 Apr 2011, 2:34 am

What's so bad about having autism or aspergers?



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19 Apr 2011, 10:05 am

SaNcheNuSS wrote:
What's so bad about having autism or aspergers?


you tell me



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20 Apr 2011, 4:22 am

n the Hyperspace Cafe Forum, there was a huge churning this year when evidence of financial complaints against Stewart Swerdlow came out. Since then all of Stewart's closest contacts deserted him, and the so called aggrieved people worked very hard to discredit all his research, which is unfortunate because most of his research is excellent. Stewart was unprofessional with money in recent years and had these problems coming. But what happened after that was that the "crusaders" against Stewart have suddenly picked up cudgels to discredit David Icke, claiming that Icke works for the Dark Side. Icke has not made any money for himself and without him, millions would never have heard about Global Conspiracies/Cabals. His book "The Biggest Secret" to this day is the best eye opener of what is happening behind the scenes. Suddenly he is a villain simply because he has not been killed!

So forums have been hijacked to rail against whistle blowers and exposers like David Icke. I think Wiki Leaks stressed out the Dark Side. Julian Assange might have UFO Documents stashed and mirrored in his Servers. Just imagine, thousands of Diplomatic Cables have exposed lies of world governments, and some people still have the temerity to call Icke or Cathy O Brien or Billy Meier a liar and the government/politicians as honest. More than half the crime in India can be traced to political support. An "Egypt" is waiting to happen even in Delhi if the scamsters are not brought to book, they have looted more than trillion dollars of public money.

Thalidomide, Mercury in Vaccines, Aspartame, Operation paper Clip, Drug Testing done without knowledge of Soldiers/Civilians, HIV Infected Needles in African Immunization Programmes, 9-11 Conspiracies, Dirty Bombs, Davos, Bilderberg Meetings, Trilateral Commission, David Kelly's death, Scott Ritter/Hans Blix's testimony... so much evidence, documented and circumstantial, exists all around. And Wiki Leaks has proven that Governments lie far too often.

Any person who says there are no government conspiracies after seeing so much exhaustive documentation and after the testimony of so many sane witnesses is either:
1. A Disinfo Agent
2. Mindless