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It is all total nonsense.

ruveyn

look up the 'wow' signal picked up by SETI some time ago.

Thank you for the welcome and response!

I can see the idea of the Earth-like planets, given the vast nature of space there is a possibility of an untold many similar set-ups to our own.
Just for example, if these planets mirrored our own development there could be infinite variation at any point in the timeline, as you mentioned, switching dominance, etc. I suppose too, variables in environmental conditions would effect this too.
I suppose then, as likely could be the possibility of minimal change a path not to dissimilar to our own, therefore human/humanoids.

Being that life as we know it evolved from simple cells/bacteria, would it not be possible alien life could have an infinite number of different 'starting points'? Variations in terrain, stimulus, biological structures, etc.
Is it a possibility too that although life could develop on an Earth-like planet, this is the only one upon which conditions were exactly correct?

On cognitive thought. Would this be on the assumption that because we evolved for this point, it remains a possibility that other beings may have done the same, potentially surpassing our own abilities? Then, hence New Age ideas, telepathy, etc?
In a situation in which the dominant species say squid, has all the tools for survival it needs, namely itself. Eco-system in balance, not a care in (it's) world. Why would the need for cognition occur? Is an awareness of your own existence, mortality, self importance and other traits a benefit to a species?

Then back to your original quote of 'projecting ego driven views', we can only express ideas in terms others can understand, hence the human-centric projection on that which is unknown.



Yep, that's the one. Space drama. Wouldn't it be a pain to finally encounter another far, distant life form to find out they might as well be humans in make up. Or to come from a home world destroyed by war, greed, injustice and discover Earth. More of the same.
Although now you mention it, I'd love to see a series in which the other species were things like Raptors, Lions and Owls.
On a serious note, I do love me some Science Fiction.

I'm aware most of my questions are covered under 'anything is possible (except the impossible) which could be possible (though unlikely)'.
I think despite maybe not personally existing to the point where any answers emerge that it's great that we have the ability to discuss concepts like this, incredibly interesting and fun!

I'll stop there.. you've opened the flood gates now..

No I classified the nordics as human hybrid with grays. My impression of reading the manifestation is they are a form of hybrid being that encompass gray anatomy (particularly the almond shaped eyes). There may be hundred of generations of these hybrids created from humanoids.

Hi Danny,
Great to see your open-mindedness on this subject,

Excellent point. There is nothing to prevent a non-carbon life form evolving that is silica-based. Makes for an interesting perspective on the possibility of Transformers auto-bots. Here on earth there is claims that non-carbon life forms such as rods and Ebani are already here, but our eyes are not able to catch sight of them without infrared camera or telephoto cameras with high shutter speed.
Rods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amnNgXRK ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3H4T0p0S58
Ebani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzozbkQ7 ... 1DF8C8B909
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s68R-Kq8 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUO_rMuFecs



Not likely because the conditions required for life appear to be fairly simple to replicate so the probability is very low that we are the only place in the universe where life has arisen.



Highly probable. If you consider beings could be millions of years evolved ahead of us then they would be to us like we are to grunting cave men.



There is growing evidence that animals like chimpanzees and dolphins have a sense of self (i.e. they recognize themselves in a mirror). In addition squid, octopus, crows etc are capable of deductive reasoning. The impression is that these animals have a sense of self awareness and love, altruism etc that humans were once thought to be the only ones capable of.



Yes, we have a habit of applying anthropomorphism on other life forms that likely exist in other parts of the universe or in alternate dimensions. In other words since we think "I" therefore we are the center of the universe in terms of what we know. Since we cannot comprehend beyond our knowledge our arrogant scientists will often claim "it doesn't exist" until the relevant evidence is handed to them on a platter.



Owls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_ ... f_Ga'Hoole
raptors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzxCKPZbO0
Lions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwaFwqR0 ... re=related

Sorry, you did mention nordics under hybrids.
My next question: where can I get some of the stuff that you're smokin'?

Okay. Earth is being visited by spacefaring aliens called "greys". Let's go with that notion.

Do you really think that they could 'hybridize' with humans?

If you're talking about interbreeding the old fashioned way then thats absurd.
A human male trying to knock up a grey alien babe would have better luck trying to breed with a terrestrial oak tree because a human has more genetic and biochemical kinship to a terrestrial tree than to any creature- even to an outwardly human shaped creature that may have evolved on another planet.

Concievebly aliens might take our gametes back to a high tech lab and then try force the square peg of our genome into the round hole of their own genome to make a hybrid, but even then it would be problematic how such a high-tech hybrid would become fleshed out as a creature.

Nordics have a 95 percent DNA match with hairy chimpanzees. Where do the greys come in there?

ruveyn

Now, now, Ruve ... don't confuse the poor man with facts ...

Then again, the closest DNA match to dolphins are cows. And what about mice and humans? The human species has 99 percent genetical counterparts in mice.

Things like these are part of what makes me question the generally accepted talks of common ancestors - especially when, in regards to humans and apes, humanity's "missing link" so far has been found to be a jaw bone and some teeth. While I'm always open to listening to new scientific findings or theories, and try to keep frequently updated on it, humanity's conclusions are so often erroneous that accepting humanity's perceived science as the only reasonable basis of evidence is deeply foolish. In fact, history has proven that those who merely follow perceived or known science, as the basis of their beliefs, hold all the qualities of being able to be described as religious.

you're contradicting yourself.
The fact that science is proved wrong and corrects itsself shows that it is the opposite of religion. Not puting down religion (which has a different purpose than science), but in religion they adhere to their theories as dogma in the face of disproof. As you point out - in science they overturn theories every now and again confronted with new evidence. Thats precisely what science is supposed to do.

Id like to see your source for mice being "99 percent genetically identical to humans".

Cows and porposes are not close genetic cousins. They are only comparitively close. Whales are closer to cows than to other land mammals.

Why is that a problem for you?
Whales are mammals.
They evolved from some land mammal ancestor, so they must have common ancestry with some group of land mammals.
So why NOT hoofed mammals like cows?

Cows dont look much like flipper, but niether do squirrels nor bats nor humans, nor anyother group of land mammals.


If you're so up on science why do you use the term "missing link" which a hollywood pop culture term that scientists dont even use?

Evolution is not a unilineal chain with links (missing or otherwise) but a bush with branches and twigs. There are missing crotches between the branches, but no missing links in any chain.

a very nice pre'cise of directed graph theory.

ruveyn

The notion of aliens being able to interbreed with humans is as laughable as them running their computers on windows so that we can install a (human-made) virus on them (OK, maybe no virus is necessary, as they might have independently developed their very own Mistake Edition). Somewhat less ridiculous, but still bizarre, is the notion that aliens would send 'manned' spacecraft instead of robots, like NASA mostly does and which is much cheaper and safer. Especially when you consider interstellar distances.
And based on 'testimonials' one could easily prove disease is caused by witchcraft, evil spirits or angry gods, or the existence of magic, demonic possession, etc. 'X says Y says he saw Z' is about the least reliable 'evidence' there is. Saying 'X thinks he saw a pattern in Y' is proof... that that's what X thinks. Humans are hard-wired to find patterns, often when such patterns are purely spurious (probably how all superstitions began) and, of course, patterns need not be designed by sentient beings.
Another point is Occam's razor - the simplest explanation generally isn't aliens, but things like classified military research (aeronautics, missiles), wishful thinking, confirmation bias, cherrypicking evidence, jumping to conclusions, exaggeration (conscious or not), outright hoaxes, etc. The sheer distances involved in interstellar travel, among other things, make aliens just about the least plausible explanation for almost anything.
Then there are several other of the usual fallacies, like 'X says Einstein said Y so Y has to be true' as if Einstein had been an infallible prophet instead of a scientist (he was dead wrong about quantum mechanics, for example) - the modern-day equivalent of the medieval 'magister dixit' or Papal infallibility. There seems to be a pattern with Einstein in particular of people trying to use him as a authority on matters in which he had no expertise - like when people claim he said humanity would be wiped out in X time if bees became extinct, forgetting that he wasn't even a biologist.

I was inclined to agree that the alien phenomena is a ruse by the military to fob civilians from their secret experiments with drone technology.

However there is something terribly suspicious about the NSA declassified documents released in May 2011 under FOI. Would you care to comment on these? particularly items 41 and 42. Nobody seems terribly enthusiastic to analyse it? intellectual fear perhaps??
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/index.shtml

I never seen an alien, only a dead one in dream. It was laying on some grass. It's a road I walk down toward a cemetary.

I once stumbled upon what appeared to be a dead alien, but it turned out he was just passed out drunk.