My thoughts on the English riots.

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The BNP are a nothing party. They are and will remain a tiny, divided force of extremists. The British public will never vote for a racist party like the BNP in large numbers.

Your commentary on this issue disgusts me.

When the EDL (who I'm not particularly keen on, by the way) go out and peacefully demonstrate against Muslim fundamentalism, they're fascists, bigots, far-righters and racists that must be clamped down upon.

When thousands of thugs and looters wreck the streets of London, destroying businesses and burning down houses, assaulting, intimidating and robbing defenceless people and attacking the police, they're just misunderstood victims.



And what are you going to do, get yourself arrested? In general, the EDL are more peaceful than the UAF and other assorted far-leftist crusty wimps and thugs.

The EDL really aren't people you want to antagonise - a lot of them are alright folk who are just pissed off with mass Muslim immigration which they never asked for - but in any organisation like the EDL you're going to find some nasty people amongst their ranks. Neo-Nazis, violent thugs, and the like. A friend of mine found this out to his cost.

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The same has happened in Lancashire too, with two men being arrested. One wonders how much any action was actually intended or whether it was just idiots who thought it would be funny to post something like that.

Exactly.



Exactly. It's very much suppressed but there is a lot of suppressed anger about these events here. All that really needs to happen is for a populist voice to take advantage of this feeling and sentiment. UKIP probably can't do it because none of them really have that drive in them to produce it.

What's missing here is a properly populist, right-wing figure. Farage is mainly focused on the EU which is both good and not good.

If there was a Wilders or a Kjærsgaard type figure in the UK, all bets are off.

What probably will happen in time though is that the general police in Great Britain become routinely armed as they are already in Northern Ireland. Apart from that, I expect things to pretty much carry on as usual.



There are a lot of hacked-off people but with nowhere to put their dissent at the moment besides the EDL. It would be good if this were to change.

Lol, if the EDL marched in my area it wouldn't be a leftist group meeting them. It would just be normal people.

MY COMMENTARY DISGUSTS YOU?

I would like to point out that this "hero" of brutish nationalism referred to rioters on another thread in this forum as:

"Black scumbags"

You are the scumbag! I should really inform the police. Racism is a criminal offence.

Clad in niqabs and chanting terrorist slogans or not?

Will the Socialist Workers Party be turning out as well? And you'd better make sure Andy Choudary turns up.



Yes.



Are they scumbags? Yes.
Are most of them black? Yes. But there are some brown and white ones too.



And it's at this that I can do no more than choke laughing on my bit of bacon.

I've lost all faith in humanity. I don't care who you vote for - The Communist Party OR The BNP/EDL. Just stop all this pointless bickering. Please?
I seriously regret posting this. I never even said anything about race, who to vote for or anything like that. I only said that this culture of greed we live in is ruining our youth and turning them into corrupt zombies. Black, white, straight, gay, we're all capable of being corrupt asshats because we are humans.

From what I hear via people talking about my city on the net a good deal of it was BS just to get people to start carp in them areas. The chief constable of Merseyside police pointed out that fact yesterday by saying on the radio that good number of what was going around on facebook and twitter about targets were lies.

Yes - I think in any situation like this you're likely to get people who think it's 'funny' to post something like that, whether just as a 'joke' or whether it's to antagonise people. They should really grow up though.

+1 to that plus I find it funny that they're so f*****g thick to use communication tools that are easy for the police to trace

Another sad little man sitting in his room scared of moors and orcs aren't you. Contrary to your little messed up view of the EDL, the EDL are a bunch of messed up islamaphobic, homophobic racist scumbags. One of its leaders has just been convicted for assaulting a police officer.

http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-a ... k3HuobTbOA

Real heroes of the realm lmao.

BTW you won't choke on your Bacon, the Bacon will be coming through the door...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqCkmRq7U3E

I think the old politics are on their way out. If we pull through this what emerges will be less divisive. It is no good saying this shouldn't have happened , or there is too much immigration- you can not restore our country to before 1948- it had happened and what is done is done, and we have to figure out new ways. Black and white kids were rioting , black and white kids and adults were guarding property together and cleaning up. This is the morality divide, not race, creed or color.

My own son suggests some kind of National Service, not necessarily military, projects, to act as a social leveling device and groups can learn discipline, share genuine values and work together.
Not Mickey Mouse stuff real life projects that benefit everyone, rich and poor have to do alike, to become part of and form a society.

+1



Yup social groups are so alienated by each other these days its a wonder this hasn't happend sooner. Something like this needs to be done. Hopefully your son will go into politics.

You have no argument, only insult.



As compared to the likes of the 7/7 lot?



And nor would I want to. We should be stemming the tide of immigration, and looking to integrate those immigrants we have here into the fabric of the British nation. I'd never advocate deportation or any of the mad stuff the BNP comes out with. It is possible and achievable - it won't be an easy task but it is achievable. First thing is to stop dividing people but focus on what unites us.

Lol

You started the insults with racist remarks. What the flames getting a bit too much now?

7/7 lot?

I certainly have never felt threatend by a Muslim. What intimates YOU about them. I certainly do not need the EDL. I pay my taxes and the security services do a great job of thwarting a large majority of attacks perpetrated by a tiny minority of the Muslim population.


Lmao

tequila - do you agree there should be more fair but firmer discipline , How do we begin to build real social groups from all backgrounds and classes to achieve this? Not multicultral idealist b*ll*cks which was NT BS but genuine strong social bonds and loving, families loving, neighborhoods loving and secure. I remember these, they are not pie in the sky ideals.

Among all the despair and recriminations after the riots,it's been heartwarming to see members of the public volunteering in huge numbers to come together and clear up the cities.Instead of Facebook pages inciting others to riot,they are now being set up to show support for the police and emergency services.

If the riots have been portrayed as an English problem then it's only fair that the good people of England,the overwhelming majority,are commended for the way they've responded.