This is what the United States has to cope with

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Heres a real bad one: I read a news article last year on the 4th of July weekend. Its headline was "Good News: 70% of Americans still support the Declaration of Independence." WHAT?! I know there are some extremists, anarchists, and other messed up people who don't like freedom, but 30% is extremely alarming.

That means 30% of Americans don't support the Declaration of Independence? Was that specifically addressed? Were these people against the Declaration, or did they just not understand the question?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I don't know, but there was obviously a lot of discussion about why they would say no to that. If I remember well enough, one of them said they might have been drunk when they were asked. I might actually believe that, since there are not a lot of reasons why you shouldn't want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And I don't see how you wouldn't understand a question like that with an answer that should be very obvious.

Maybe 30% of the respondents were drunk.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Jesus is a local Republican, there is supposed to be some real plan, it is the point of having a government. "What is Truth," is a quote from an old book.

I do feel that the people are way off, those in charge of our Health, Education and Welfare, and their goals do not reflect the goals of the Citizens. Before it happened, murdering a million people in Iraq had never crossed my mind.

I would agree there is no European Debt Crisis, Goldman Sachs sold some Greek Bonds, and shorted them, it was manufactured. Credit Default Swaps exceed world wealth by at least a factor of ten, so short the world and crash the economy would pay, if there were survivors. Cyprus was about plundering offshore accounts, British and Russian, and Russians do not like survivors.

Of the hundred trillion in gold, today it lost ten trillion. It was also Tax Day. It might be connected, or just used for a cover for a gold short.

Ten trillion is two-thirds of the US National Debt, lost today at the casino market, just in gold. Someone covered that bet, that gold would not lose. Now they have to pay trillions. This is what happened to Lehmans, AIG, others, making safe bets with other people's money.

I did not mean to offend you, just government and market reptillions.

My Citizen view is the best we could do is produce the best educated healthy people we can, and quit randomly murdering people around the world.

For the cost of Iraq, we could have built high speed rail from coast to coast, and ten brand new cities. We could prepare for the future. It would produce full employment, for our young who are not doing well, and will have to carry this load all too soon.

JFK was not killed by a lone gunman, the Moon Landing, Neutron Bomb, and other things were faked, and there are some very non human behaviors going on that "Reptillions", covers.

Cold blooded, behaviors that are toxic to humans and the future, an agenda that seems planet destructive.

Now, we are a very short cycle species, none of us will be around in a hundred years.

To me it seems obvious that all we do is what we leave for the future, and we have been doing a poor job.

Where I see reducing the population, some call for filling our land with people from somewhere else.

Where I see maintaining the land, forests, water, air, others see something to pillage.

Where I see an educated population being key to the future economy, others see schools as government jobs, and selling drugs and prison as being the future.

Across all of our views, Americans agree with me, you get the world you build, and even if we are dead and gone, just apes passing through, the one right thing we can do is leave a better place than we found. It transcends religion, politics, everyone agrees.

Somehow the Reptillions do everything to make a mess of it.

Population is going to lead to famine, no water, and air unfit to breath. These are human concerns, it would not be hard to have a goal of reducing the population over the next few hundred years, to under a billion. It would be the greatest gift we could leave them.

Without the conflict that comes from gaining resources, with a high level of education, they could survive in a world where computer controlled machines do most of the work.

Our current path is heading to endless mass suffering, with a decline in all things we consider human.

The world could be a park, life an educational camping trip, and we would have the resources for space travel. The Universe is just too big not to visit.

Will it be our vision of the future? Or Reptillon shape shifters, who are cold blooded and have no human rights.

Native Americans have a saying, "We do not inheret the land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."

That sounds like it means that 30 percent of Americans dont want to be Americans anymore- but want to be subjects of the British Crown again.

If you cant get medical insurance, then you might indeed wish to to undue the Declaration of Independence so we can get socialized medicine like the Brits and Canadians have.

But I doubt that those 30 percent would understand that the declaration of indepence is just that- the declaration of America's seperate nationhood if you put the document in front ot them.

They probably look at the document and see that line "all men are created equal" and just jump to the conclusion that its somekind of newfangled dangerous commie pinko stuff- and get offended.





Or it could mean that 30 percent dont abide by this "'all men are created equal' commie pinko nonsense! That line still rubs many the wrong way.

You can't know what those 30% mean when they say that they don't support the Declaration of Independence.

They might be Loyalists, who wish that the United States was a Commonwealth Realm.
They might be anarchists, who object to anything that recognizes any type of sovereignty.
They might be fascists who object to anything that tends to the overthrow of state power.
They might be communists who object to any recognition of individual rights that prevail over collective rights.
They might be mischievious.

You might speculate on their intentions, but evidence evidence of intention, you can't know.

Ah... sorry then...

I guess by education you are referring to public schools, which the teacher are supposed to be government-related.
Now I understand.
It's true that in most countries (and USA), public schools/ state schools tend to have a lower quality.

I also agree that they should have used that Iraq money on things that are more constructive.

I like that Native American saying, by the way.

Well...most likely they are just illiterates who cant figure out what the declaration of independence is saying.

Ive heard polls like that in which some huge percentages of the population dont agree with the Bill of RIghts- which is distrurbing enough. They either dont understand the BOR, or are too fascist to agree with it.

But the whole point of the Declaration of Independence is to proclaim our independence from Britain. So if you "dont support the DI" then that can only mean one of two things either (a)you are a British Loyalist- still holding the torch after two and half centuries- or(b)-- you're so illiterate that when someone shows the Declaration of Independence you dont recognize it nor understand it.
Which is likely more common among those 30 percent? Ignorance is more common than fervent Toryism in 21st centurey America I suspect.

H.P. Lovecraft fancied himself a latent British loyalist.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer