Damaging story on ASD & child porn by Temple Grandin's m

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07 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm

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Wow, just when I was recovering from the Cutler article I watched the God Bless America preview. Holy Crap - the scary part was at points I actually enjoyed it. I remember a move with Michael Douglas called Falling Down. It had a similar theme. Shooting people in a movie theatre - not cool.


Wow Ann, I enjoyed some parts as well and it scares me as well.

There are some exaggerations in this movie but this is the crux of what we're dealing with. The truth is most people do not give a sh** therefore I don't believe we're being actively being persecuted. What will happen is they will say we're pedophiles, murderers or we should be locked up. Guess what? After a few months, no one will give a rats ass.

They're self-absorbed in their own lives, status and going goo-goo, gah gah over Kim Kardashian's ass. In the genocide department we do not have anything to worry about.


I see your point and I had not looked at it that way so thanks for giving that perspective.

I guess the impact of said article is a lot bigger on the autism community, because we have autism on our minds, and for most other people this article is about is important as an article that claims that Kim Kardashian's ass is actually her twin sister, however because the author is a mother of a autism self-advocate who is well known, the chances that this stirs up some media attention are therefore a lot bigger, but when this all blows over we are once again seen as rain man clones anyway, like we always are.

Nice movie btw I am actually watching that right now after you linked the trailer :P


Where did you find it at?


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07 Aug 2013, 6:00 pm

Unbelievable, at the same time as Temple Grandin's mother quotes Tony Attwood as stating he has only once been able to stop an autistic boy from suiciding, she wants to assert that autistic men are more likely into child porn and rape.
She obviously did wonders for her daughter, but is undoing all that good by using her reputation to push her opinion and quite obvious dislike of autistic men.
I don't know what's wrong with that woman, but she clearly has an agenda against men, and has taken it upon herself to target the vulnerable, for anyone else it would be merely naivety, coming from her it's unforgivable.



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07 Aug 2013, 7:33 pm

What. The. f**k.

I am having difficulty seeing that article as being anything but malicious.


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07 Aug 2013, 8:00 pm

I understand the point she's making and the possibility of it, but she provides no evidence for its incidence.

She states the individual with an ASD will miss out on the early, preteen type of sexual journey; the beginnings, the "you show me yours and I'll show you mine" that she refers to. Hence, when the "adult" male starts to get interested, they go back to the beginning that they lacked -- it's different than the "normal" pedophile, but it's treated the same by the legal system.

Lorna Wing had a note on it in her original paper (the lady who named it Asperger's Syndrome and made it a label for all of us to have):

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If he has a strong sex drive he may approach and touch or kiss a stranger, or someone much older or younger than himself, and, as a consequence, find himself in trouble with the police; or he may solve the problem by becoming solitary and withdrawn.


It seems to be a real event, and hiding from it or calling it damaging/slandering doesn't help. It's like suicide and how people never spoke of it whilst people whom needed help were offing themselves -- if it was spoken of, it may have helped.



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07 Aug 2013, 8:55 pm

i'm not buying what she's selling at all...at least not with the way she's marketing it:

as a teen, i worked for two years as a counselor at a summer camp for children (ages 5-12) who were *severely* autistic. many of them had lived in institutions since they were infants. not one camper ever tried to touch any other camper sexually...

but a significant number of the boy campers tried copping a feel of us female counselors!

this woman is full of crap...or alzheimer's. :lol:



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07 Aug 2013, 9:59 pm

Utter garbage. I would post a long-winded rant about how awful the article is, but I don't think that either the article or the b***h from whom's arse it originated are worthy of the energy writing such a post would take.

I'd really like to hear what Temple Grandin has to say about this. As someone who has done so much good for the community, I imagine that she'd be pretty angry that her own mother is abusing her status to defame Autistic males.



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08 Aug 2013, 12:41 am

When there is even speculation of ASD connected to a shooting we are suddenly mass murderers. I'm not surprised that someone would portray us as pedophiles but I didn't expect it from the mother of someone who has ASD. What happened to this woman to scramble her brain? Did she catch Temple blowing baby goats or something?



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08 Aug 2013, 7:08 am

It's interesting that she's attacking autistic men, not autistic women... It could be a personal problem with an autistic man. Temple Grandin is famous. Maybe somebody got stalkery and her mom is reacting like this. Maybe an autistic man hurt her at some point and now she's blaming autism.


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08 Aug 2013, 7:12 am

has temple grandin herself weighed in on this matter


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08 Aug 2013, 7:19 am

Haven't seen anything yet.



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08 Aug 2013, 7:50 am

I couldn't find a response from Grandin either, but I did find this article on Forbes (not sure if it has already been posted):

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2013/08/05/temple-grandins-mother-links-autism-with-viewing-child-pornography/



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08 Aug 2013, 12:24 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
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The truth is most people do not give a sh** therefore I don't believe we're being actively being persecuted. What will happen is they will say we're pedophiles, murderers or we should be locked up. Guess what? After a few months, no one will give a rats ass.


A lot of people will not even register this article, some who do read it will, like the people on WP, sift through the crap and see it for the flawed piece of thinking that it is. The worst case is that this filters down to urban mythology and is used as another weapon by school age bullies and gains a foothold in the next generation of ignorant adults.


I saw a comment on a social network page about this from a mom of an autistic boy who said she was grateful for the article because it would help her understand her son as a he grew into a sexual being. Many people suggested that she not use it that way, but if she does it will likely be very damaging for that boy. And the school bullying is something I am concerned about, too. It would be great if we could do something to reduce the prevalence of bigotry in the next generation of ignorant adults.



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08 Aug 2013, 2:07 pm

is there any evidence to support these claims.
is it not libel to make such claims without evidence


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08 Aug 2013, 3:19 pm

She starts her article saying this is down to one individual case and then stretches that to cover all men with AS.

Has anyone here contacted the Daily Beast? Has anyone received a reply?



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09 Aug 2013, 1:47 am

I contacted the Daily Beast. I also wrote this. http://paulacdurbinwestbyautisticblog.b ... gnore.html



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09 Aug 2013, 2:26 am

Thank you for speaking out, and for putting time and energy into the detailed deconstruction.
Just one note on your blog entry, I believe Eustacia Cutler is the sole author and receives full credit on the Daily Beast article.