after dad publically shames her, girl jumps off overpass

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You replied to my post and said something stupid, and now you want credit for predicting that I'd argue? Well, that's... something.

Glad my sense of humor's appreciated here. But seriously, what I said about depression/anxiety stems from my own experience with it. It messes up the mind and interferes with rational thinking so it's not the same as it is for people without it. These are real disorders with real, possible outcomes and they aren't always good so gotta manage them well.

You know something, Jeb Bush recently advocated publicly shaming unwed mothers, and others, in order to dissuade them from doing socially unacceptable things. I can just imagine the rise in suicides if he ever makes it to the White House.

god help us.

Could be worse, we could get Cruz.

Public figures are bitter because that's what happens to them in the media all the time and they have no control over it so surprise! They want others to go through the same baptism of fire because, hey, they have to so should everyone else.

Ahh, and now it's become a partisan issue... Fabulous.

I agree with everything you said, it's just, it occurred to me that I'm writing about the awfulness of what the man did, and forgetting there's a person attached, and that the man is entitled to have a fair investigation of his conduct before he is judged---because what the man did to the girl makes me so angry.

local newspaper said that the Tacoma police are finished with this one, so it will have to be a higher court above earthly power that has another look at that man.

A parent has no right to cut a teenager's hair. It's as plain as day. Hair is akin to skin. It might not bleed, but it's just as psychologically important as a person's skin. It's not "just hair" and a teenager is old enough to be in charge of their own. It's not like she's six or seven years old and her dad has to take her to the beauty parlor to get her hair cut because her mother is having trouble brushing long hair. Then it's understandable that he would cut it but as a teenager, she is old enough to take care of her own hair and nobody has any business bothering it but her. Yes, the father is a person. Everyone who violates another is. Still doesn't excuse what they do. A lot of times, they don't think twice about what they do, just arrogantly carry on as if they did nothing out of the ordinary but if some angry person grabbed this guy and shaved off every hair on his head, you can bet he would throw the biggest hissy, cops would be called. The person who did it would not get away with treating him like that because it's his hair and that's all that matters.

Why would any parent want to give their kid such a terrible, terrible memory? Think of the big picture. I would hate to be thought of as the parent that cut my teenager's hair in a fit of rage, then videoed it, with the mindset of a vindictive teenager myself, to broadcast on something like Youtube or in a blog. That is so childish. I just cannot believe a grown adult who hasn't even been a teenager in something like ten or more years would act like that. Far better to just go to some kind of counseling or family therapy but that would take more time and effort than simply cutting hair and posting a one minute video, and possibly destroying a relationship in the process. Someone might have to actually spend a couple evenings a week out of their busy schedule for that, and it might cost money. You gotta build positive relationships with your relatives and some people have no clue how to do that.

Sounds like an effective way to say, "I'm the alpha male here, so no boy is going to get anywhere close to you, whether you like it or not". He was a bit late to take action, though.

Being in a society which expects people to keep living like children long after their bodies are sexually mature creates a lot of problems, and, unless civilization collapses, the solution is to let the species slowly evolve to delay its puberty more and more. Teenagers probably have no business being attractive, so perhaps taking away a daughter's beauty should be standard practice, not a punishment. No doubt these problems are harder on early than on late bloomers, so they're leading evolution in the right direction. Maybe future humans who start going through puberty at fifty years of age (and hopefully age slowly and get to live at least two hundred years) will be able to manage their romantic and sex lives from the very beginning, having already gotten a better education than anyone today will in their whole life, with their bodies still at their prime and without their parents or anyone else from the previous generation getting in the way.

Of course the daughter was unstable, who wouldn't be with such a pathetic and abusive father? Do you think this is the most abusive thing he ever did? Do you even think of what went on BEHIND the cameras? For how LONG this poor girl had to put up with this? By the way, if there was a mother around, she's a poor excuse for a mother as well. I'd kick my husband's behind and beat him with a baseball bat if he EVER treated our son that way.

It seems that too many people are treating public shaming and acting like a social media informant against their friends and neighbors as if it's nothing. People such as this man need to start doing serious jail time, imo.

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there has to be a punishment beyond jailing people, for some people and some things only banishment will do.

Yes, but unfortunately when everyone has powers like these, a significant proportion of them will use them to make themselves feel big, and take out their frustrations, and bring their badly thought out utopian visions to fruition. Sooner or later folks are going to come to the conclusion that throwing all the devices into the river is the only answer (I am not telling people to do this).

Perhaps another solution might be to make uploading video under certain circumstances cost prohibitive to do on a whim.

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human nature is badly lagging behind technology.